An Ordinary Average Denarius

Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by David Atherton, Aug 16, 2017.

  1. Marsyas Mike

    Marsyas Mike Well-Known Member

    I thought I'd found my most "average" (in this case, ugly) Domitian, but here is a fourree with dramatic core exposure. The style's not too bad for one of these, but lots of ugly here:

    Domitian Fouree - Den. Minerva std. $14.99 Sep 13 photo 3 (3).JPG

    I think this is RSC 264; RIC 721 (90-91 A.D.). But maybe not...
     
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  3. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    Um, agreed! I really like circulated coins. Tough to find, scarce, but "average", "circulated" etc. are of MUCH more value to me than perfect, EF, FDC etc of common types. :)
    And! COMPLETING a SET??? ECSTASY! Well done...great feeling and accomplishment @David Atherton ! Niiiice!


    Hey, my Minerva is circulated, Domitian, and worn... is it worth $1,000,000 to complete your next set??? :D
    RI Domitian AR Denarius 81-96 CE Minerva spear shield COS XVI CENS PPP RIC 719.jpg
    RI Domitian AR Denarius 81-96 CE Minerva spear shield COS XVI CENS PPP RIC 719
     
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  4. Orfew

    Orfew Draco dormiens nunquam titillandus

    Congrats David, I really like the portrait on this one.
     
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  5. Ancient Aussie

    Ancient Aussie Well-Known Member

    Nice Denarius David Atherton, a bit better than average, the second coin I ever bought was one of the Domitian Minerva Denarius series, very average in the days I didn't know what I was doing (still don't) 20161001_134149.jpg 20161001_134209.jpg
     
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  6. Yozz1

    Yozz1 Member

    Hi David, here is my only Domitian, not as good as Lordmarcovan's.
    But I can say "life's been good to me so far" domitian O.jpg domitian R.jpg
     
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  7. David Atherton

    David Atherton Flavian Fanatic

    If I didn't already have the type I would try to haggle you down from a $1,000,000. ;)

    BTW, it is RIC 761.
     
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  8. David Atherton

    David Atherton Flavian Fanatic

    I think it's likely a fourrée of RIC 761, at least the TR P XIII date would indicate so. And I agree, the style isn't far off from a contemporary official example. Perhaps a mint engraver was moonlighting?
     
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  9. Jwt708

    Jwt708 Well-Known Member

    Wow on the list for two years!

    I think it's a pleasing coin.

    I can appreciate these sorts of nuances in a collectors focus, it's the same way I approach my token collection.

    I suppose all my denari are average.

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    Severus Alexander, Rome, AD 222-235
    AR, denarius, 19mm, 2.4g; 6h; Rome mint, AD 226
    Obv.: IMP C M AVR SEV ALEXAND AVG; laureate bust right
    Rev.: PM TRP V COS II PP; Mars advancing right holding spear and trophy arms
     
  10. alde

    alde Always Learning

    I'm glad you were able to complete the series David. I'm sure you will keep looking for varieties as you seem to have a knack for finding them. Strangely enough I don't have a Domitian denarius with Minerva. I need to do something about that soon. Here is a Domitian denarius just to participate. Domitian AR Denarius RIC 244.jpg
     
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  11. Mikey Zee

    Mikey Zee Delenda Est Carthago

    Since this seems to be primarily a Domitian/Minerva thread, I'll add my sestertius:

    Domitian sestertius romwe with Minerva.jpg
     
  12. Marsyas Mike

    Marsyas Mike Well-Known Member

    Thanks for the info on this, David - I'm going to change the attribution on my "flip" since you know way more about these than I do. I agonized over buying this one, fourrees not being an active interest, but like you mentioned, I thought the style was quite "official" looking.
     
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  13. David Atherton

    David Atherton Flavian Fanatic

    Fourrées aren't a personal collecting focus. I find them interesting and would love to start a sub collection of them, but so many official coins are calling to me that I have to put that ambition on the back burner. Maybe someday.
     
  14. Marsyas Mike

    Marsyas Mike Well-Known Member

    Yeah, fourrées aren't a focus of mine either - this Domitian was an accident. I bought off of eBay from some poorish photos. I suspected it was a fourree, but hoped it was just a pitted silver one. Once I got it, I saw it was definitely a fourrée, but I thought it was interesting, so I kept it (and it was pretty cheap).

    Since then I got a Trajan fourrée in a lot - it too has a very nice style. Those are the only two I have (that I know of - I might have some others out of ignorance).
     
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  15. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    I have seen more than one well made fourree of Domitian that have a somewhat distinctive style but were not all the same types. I know nothing about them other than they exist.
    rb1560bb0423.jpg

    The one below is not fourree but is an example of a solid coin that was hoarded with copper coins that transferred some metal when they were separated. The coin was polished when cleaned but much copper remains on top. To be fourree, the copper has to be beneath the silver.
    rb1440bb0257.jpg
    Does anyone have one like this?
     
  16. chrsmat71

    chrsmat71 I LIKE TURTLES!

    Ordinary, average coins may be the closest thing I have to a collection theme. :woot:

    Here's my Domitian, need to reshoot this one.

    domitian_zps76894717.jpg

    I got to see Joe Walsh open up for Tom Petty back in April, Joe still puts on a good show.
     
  17. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    Love the portrait on your first coin Doug. Excellent.
     
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