Prepping threads have no place in a bullion forum

Agreed, we all "PREP" for the future with our investments, just not many prep for Apocalyptic disasters. I would think that PMs would be the last things you would want/need, in a crisis. Better to stock up on toilet paper, water, ammo, etc... things with a long shelf life that all would need. I like (now) to "collect" silver coins/bullion items. Of coarse I would love them to increase in value (intrinsic), but wouldn't call it an investment. To the point of the OPs topic, IMO, "DoomsDay" prepping has very little, if anything to do with PM investing, but also agree with the "don't like the topic, move on, or at least don't post.

 

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There's plenty of prepper websites out there. One had a Bullion investment forum which I participated in but I ended up leaving the site because I swear I think most of them wanted a government collapse or disaster to strike. Crazy stuff.

 

I like the idea of moving the Bullion forum out of CoinTalk into politics, religion in it's sister site. Good idea Peter.

 

That is exactly what I said in a thread about this topic several weeks ago. Don't ever buy PMs until you have all you can store of the things you mentioned, plus others. But if you have run out of space to store all those then PMs seems a better place for your excess than in an untrustworthy financial system. After I have stocked up on all necessities (and only then) I would rather have my wealth in real estate or PMs than in a very volatile and untrustworthy system run by the banks for their own advantage.

 

Silver has nothing whatsoever to do with politics or religion. What is this sister site you are talking about?

 

Wow.

Some people spend their time trying to do something meaningful and often against great odds, such as writing the Great American novel (or at least a decent one), or making a contribution in scientific research, or training to participate in a wheelchair race.

Others spend their time creating longer and longer lists of all they ways they can be harmed.

I wonder which of these takes the most courage?

 

Didn't know there was a silver forum.

 

That list was published by the DHS. So you are asking which takes more courage: independent thought or action, or working for the government. I'm not going to touch that one.

 

Read all of the replies from the moderators about this situation. It includes all Bullion.

 

I realize that. I wasn't speaking about who authored the above list, rather what kind of mindset embraces it.

 

That would be the zoo of zoos.

 

I might stock up on bicycle crank bearings. They don't take up much room and they're dirt cheap--$3.00 a pair for cheap 26" cruiser bearings.

But they're very neccessary. No functional crank bearings, no going out to "catch some rads" and pick mutant mushrooms.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/For_Want_of_a_Nail

 

That was a crack at me sakata, some people have nothing better to do.

 

Sure, but we need to stand together against these people who have no ability to think through things logically.

It amazes me how many people think that the statement "some preppers buy silver bullion" is the same as "people who buy bullion are preppers". They clearly never had a course in logic. It is on a par with "some *** buy food, so all people who buy food are ***" (insert whatever you want for ***).

 

I got into silver first by prepping and have seriously devoted a lot of time money and love into precious metals, I've personally enriched the pockets of numerous members of this site and have spent way more Han bullion money, and I still by and sell bullion, so the first two posers I mean posters don't nknow as much as they think they do. To each his own, live and let live

 

I won't mention specific politics due to rules, but it sometimes surprises me that people living in or close to the major countries actually think they would survive a nuclear war, well maybe for 6 months for the best protected, but 1-2 weeks for most. You can dig up the facts if one wants. No precious metals, dollars, yuans, euros, will help. Not even bullets unless its to mercifully grant peace to the horribly damaged. All water, including aquifiers after a short time will contain poisonous radiation and particles, rain unusable, and same for food. So collect, what you wish for your own reasons, and hope that all of the powerful selfish people in the world get a peaceful hobby. Rather like the story of a man trying to destroy a spider in his house and ended up burning it down in the process. As Odomax said, live and let live. Jim

 

I'm wondering about the OP's motives for this thread, because in my opinion preppers have only helped PM's and coin collectors as a whole by introducing more people into our hobby. I think people have a responsibility to be prepared to a certain level anyway, what's wrong with having extra food sit aside? Or some pre 65 coins, just in case? I find the unprepared much more comical when the news shows them rushing to the grocery stores or the home depots right before a big storm is predicted to hit (whether it does or not is a different matter).

 

Why would I want you people in my hobby?

Look, all rational people store things like water, canned foods, and other basic necessities in their home to prepare for a disaster. Disaster is possible, like flooding, power outages, and other events that could render us helpless for a short period of time. But only paranoid idiots believe a massive disaster is likely that would destroy our government and lead to a long term survival situation. The crazy thing is these same people are somehow so optimistic that they believe they will some how survive that situation. The craziest part, though, is these preppers believe other people will accept your chosen currency of 90% US silver in this dystopia! Most people don't even know there is silver in those coins, not to mention they have NO idea about the value of the metal. So in addition to surviving, you are also going to educate everyone that what you have is worth something.

You people belong in a psyche ward, not a coin forum.

 

These words are typical conspiracy-theory speak: "We need to stand together against these people who have no ability to think through things logically," think for themselves, etc. Lots of we vs. they. We have the secret knowledge no one else is bright enough to realize or uncover and therefore we will be vindicated for our noble efforts when we survive the next catastrophe while the sheeple run amok and rue their lazy lives.

For all your claims of thinking independently, there certainly are a lot of "we" statements in your comments.

The "logic" argument is the most tedious. We (all of us) humans are flawed creatures living in an extraordinarily complex world. We like to think we make decisions based on "sound reasoning"—men take particular pride in this—but the reality is our emotions, guided by our psychological underpinnings, dictate, or at least highly influence, most of our decision-making. The decisions we face at all levels, from buying a pair of shoes to deciding as a family which house to buy to collectively deciding as an institution what policy direction to go in, are all influenced by our psychological state(s). A really simple example of this is that judges have been shown to mete out different degrees of sentencing based on the time of the day: harsher when they're hungry before lunchtime, e.g.

I would go further to say that those who tout the importance of "logic" the most seem to be most out of touch with, and least understanding of, their own emotional makeup. They hide behind "logic" because it's easier than confronting their own emotions, particularly those such as fear, insecurity, inadequacy and vulnerability.

Which leads me to my comment about "courage," which was not a swipe at anyone but a sincere, if rhetorical, question. I understand the (basic, emotional) desire to protect oneself and one's family. But when that desire crosses over the threshold to obsession—exemplified by some websites, as an earlier poster pointed out, where members practically wish for an apocalypse—what is the real reason?

We all face the threats of our modern world. Any sentient adult is aware of them unless he/she is truly incapacitated mentally or psychologically. How we choose to spend our time navigating them is what's at issue.

I won't address your second paragraph because nothing I said spoke to preppers vis á vis bullion.