Paying a Premium for odd designs and certain manufactures

Discussion in 'Bullion Investing' started by mpcusa, May 8, 2017.

  1. mpcusa

    mpcusa "Official C.T. TROLL SWEEPER"

    As a bullion investor my primary focus is the bullion content but have learned from
    My local dealer that some manufactures and older silver demand a premium does
    not make much sense to me since the focus should be on the PM content not on
    the maker or funky design, your thoughts.
     
  2. Avatar

    Guest User Guest



    to hide this ad.
  3. tommyc03

    tommyc03 Senior Member

    It would seem so but many older designs are coveted and were made in smaller numbers. Elemental brand designs also can carry a stiff premium. I have a few of their 2 ounce designs and paid extra but I very much liked the designs/subjects and artwork in general.
     
    Johndoe2000$ likes this.
  4. baseball21

    baseball21 Well-Known Member

    Why? Everything is supply and demand. If people want something and it is limited price goes up. If all someone cares about is silver it shouldn't matter, but there is no reason private issues can't gain premiums or be collectable as well
     
    Johndoe2000$ and tommyc03 like this.
  5. mpcusa

    mpcusa "Official C.T. TROLL SWEEPER"

    that,s my question why ? strictly speaking its bullion if your sole purpose is to
    Invest it shouldnt matter who makes it, the point i am trying to make :)
     
  6. baseball21

    baseball21 Well-Known Member

    Popular items get premiums, and simply being privately made doesn't mean everything is automatically bullion to start with like some people assume
     
    Johndoe2000$ likes this.
  7. mpcusa

    mpcusa "Official C.T. TROLL SWEEPER"

    at the end of the day its still the same thing no matter who makes it :)
     
  8. Johndoe2000$

    Johndoe2000$ Well-Known Member

    Art rounds, challenge coins, tokens, overstrikes, etc... can, and do command a hefty premium for P.M. Products. Check out Dan Carr/Moonlight Mint, for example. These are bought and sold as collectables, not as bullion. The countries that produce, and monetize their bullion products such as American Eagles, Canadian Maple Leafs, etc... May also be collected, especially the proofs,or limited edition ones. When purchasing P.M.s, it isn't a clear, defined line that separates collector bullion from just bullion, except maybe the price, and that is even a gray area, as some collector coins can be bought, and sold for bullion prices. Plain bars, and generic rounds are what I consider to be bullion only, but some may collect those if wanted also.
     
    tommyc03 and baseball21 like this.
  9. Dave M

    Dave M Francophiliac

    And strictly speaking, a military payment certificate is just a note worth whatever the face value is, assuming it can still circulate. Why do you pay more for them? Because you like them enough that you and others bid up the price.
     
    Johndoe2000$ likes this.
  10. kanga

    kanga 65 Year Collector

    If you want to INVEST in bullion then buy generic bars or rounds.
    That's where the premium is the lowest.

    All that other stuff has the cost of production as an addition overhead.
    Someone had to make the dies and the production line is longer.
    That all adds to the price.

    Generic bars and rounds are not nearly as eye catching but you'll have to pay extra for those that are.
     
    tommyc03 and Johndoe2000$ like this.
  11. mpcusa

    mpcusa "Official C.T. TROLL SWEEPER"

    I respectfully Disagree, Graded Military payment certificates go for big money, i have been in this industry for 20 Plus years and i know what i am talking about
    Allot of the stuff i own are one of a kinds and if i ever wanted to sell would go
    for large amounts of dollars, here,s a couples example for you and these are
    Investment grade notes


    [​IMG]
     
  12. mpcusa

    mpcusa "Official C.T. TROLL SWEEPER"

  13. mpcusa

    mpcusa "Official C.T. TROLL SWEEPER"

    And good luck finding another one in this grade cause you wont !! top dog on
    the block estimated value $7,000 all day long
     
  14. mpcusa

    mpcusa "Official C.T. TROLL SWEEPER"

    and again, this one i turned down $8,200 for another top dog
     
  15. mpcusa

    mpcusa "Official C.T. TROLL SWEEPER"

  16. mpcusa

    mpcusa "Official C.T. TROLL SWEEPER"

  17. Dave M

    Dave M Francophiliac

    Ok, please let me know why you disagree. I don't need pictures of them, I've seen plenty. My position is that you and others like them, so you pay big money for them. What in there are you disagreeing with?
     
  18. mpcusa

    mpcusa "Official C.T. TROLL SWEEPER"

    Many more examples
     
  19. mpcusa

    mpcusa "Official C.T. TROLL SWEEPER"

  20. mpcusa

    mpcusa "Official C.T. TROLL SWEEPER"

  21. mpcusa

    mpcusa "Official C.T. TROLL SWEEPER"

    Educating your self in this expertise would help in making inaccurate statements :(
     
Draft saved Draft deleted

Share This Page