1922 Peace Dollar question

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  1. Blackfire Bullion

    Blackfire Bullion New Member

    I am glad to post on the forum and hello to all.

    So I am in Ireland.... Peace Dollars come up in house clearances from time to time. The old story tends to be that a relative emigrated to America and sent this coin back in the 1930s, so usually it has sat in a shoebox or cupboard for the past 90 years.

    I tend to buy peace dollars when I see them for 60 or 70 USD.
    My question is, I looked through my collection recently and I noticed one coin had a beautiful darkened or blackened toning. It has multi coloured tones at the edges at angles. What do you think, is this worth more than 70 bucks? Not many people here collect coins and those that do typically only know anything about British coins so I can't get any local opinion.

    I don't think the darkness of the coin comes across in image format !
    Thanks guys

    Peace1.png Peace2.png
     
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    Blackfire Bullion, Aug 4, 2026
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  3. Randy Abercrombie

    Randy Abercrombie Supporter! Supporter

    Well... There are those that pay a premium for toned coins. I am not one of them. Myself, I don't see any added value from the dark surfaces.
     
    Randy Abercrombie, Aug 4, 2026
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  4. Heavymetal

    Heavymetal Supporter! Supporter

    @lordmarcovan might call it circa cam. Circulation cameo
    But I agree with Randy. Not everyone’s cup-o-tea
     
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  5. Blackfire Bullion

    Blackfire Bullion New Member

    Cool cool, well I have no idea so nice to get your thoughts !
     
    Blackfire Bullion, Aug 4, 2026
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  6. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan Eclectic numismatist Moderator

    CircCam. Yep, that one’s a bonafide Circulation Cameo, and I like it quite a bit. It’s not a look often seen on Peace dollars, due to their shallow relief. Only other time I’ve seen one with that look, it was a 1921 High Relief coin.

    By the way you called it “beautiful”, I think we are in agreement. But as has been mentioned, it’s not to everyone’s taste.

    That’s OK, though. To each his own. I think it is very handsome indeed for a circulated coin.

    Welcome to the forums!
     
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  7. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan Eclectic numismatist Moderator

    PS- I fixed your pics to show full sized rather than thumbnails. (Mod powers.)

    That’s an option you can select yourself, when posting.
     
    lordmarcovan, Aug 4, 2026
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  8. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan Eclectic numismatist Moderator

    The more I look at that coin, the more I like it.
     
    lordmarcovan, Aug 4, 2026
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  9. Blackfire Bullion

    Blackfire Bullion New Member

    Thanks so much !
     
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  10. Blackfire Bullion

    Blackfire Bullion New Member

    I'm getting that this is a good quality early die strike considering its a Denver mint coin
     
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  11. physics-fan3.14

    physics-fan3.14 You got any more of them.... prooflikes?

    It appears to be an attractive coin, but definitely not worth a premium. Premium toning is usually vibrant and multicolored, not dark/black.
     
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  12. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan Eclectic numismatist Moderator

    While I’m a big fan of CircCams, and of this coin in particular, I must realistically agree that it isn’t worth a premium. It’s a kind of “niche” thing, you see.
     
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  13. physics-fan3.14

    physics-fan3.14 You got any more of them.... prooflikes?

    I don't even necessarily think it's niche. I think the majority of collectors prefer original skin on their coins, with nice smooth even surfaces.

    It isn't that this is worth a premium - it's that everything else is worth a discount.
     
    physics-fan3.14, Aug 4, 2026
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  14. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    You have a 1922-D mint Peace Dollar with an even darker toning. The coins appears to be a strong Extra Fine, maybe even About Or Almost Uncirculated from the photos. It’s easier to tell when you have the coin in hand then looking at a photo.
    it is considered a common date coin as there were 15,063,000 minted.
    It contains .77344 ounces of silver which at the closing price in the United States today would be a little over $46.00. The toning and condition of the coin will raise that price.
    Welcome to CT.
     
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  15. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan Eclectic numismatist Moderator

    Sometimes a niche thing will fetch a premium, but admittedly, this is not one of those situations.
     
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  16. Blackfire Bullion

    Blackfire Bullion New Member

    Got it ! Thanks
     
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  17. -jeffB

    -jeffB Greshams LEO Moderator

    Welcome to CoinTalk!

    I'm actually a bit nervous about the authenticity of this particular coin. My thoughts:

    1) This is a color scheme that's very common on modern fakes being mass-produced and sold out of China. Not all coins that look like this are fake, but a lot of fakes look like this.

    2) That doubled rim on the reverse - again, it looks like a common flaw in counterfeit coins.

    3) Those dark pits on both obverse and reverse concern me a little bit.

    Counterbalancing this:

    1) I do not see the mushy lettering and other design details common on fakes.

    2) As I recently said in another thread, lately I seem to be identifying about 20 out of every 10 actual fakes posted here. I've tipped over to "overly suspicious", and I haven't gotten things balanced out yet.

    I'll be interested to see what others think. Meanwhile, if you haven't already, you could check the coin's weight and thickness, and make sure it's not attracted to a magnet.

    And, again, welcome!
     
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  18. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan Eclectic numismatist Moderator

    There’s an angle I never considered.

    Woulda fooled me, is all I’d say if that turned out to be the case.

    Then again… I did mention I’d never seen this appearance on a regular low relief Peace dollar. (Only on a High Relief coin.)

    Dangit Jeff, now you’ve got me paranoid.

    (“20 out of every 10”. LOL)

    That being said, it looks fine to me?
     
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  19. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan Eclectic numismatist Moderator

    Hmm. That double rim on the reverse does look unusual.

    But… nahhh… it still looks OK to me, overall?

    (shrugs)
     
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  20. Blackfire Bullion

    Blackfire Bullion New Member

    The weight, thickness and diameter are all ok and non magnetic. The coin came from an old house clearance in the countryside in Ireland, most likely a relative that emigrated sent it back.
     
    Blackfire Bullion, Aug 5, 2026
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  21. Heavymetal

    Heavymetal Supporter! Supporter

    IMG_4593.jpeg IMG_4594.jpeg Dug mine out for pics. Still in 2x2. Just for comparison. My lighting doesn’t do it justice IMG_4592.jpeg IMG_4589.jpeg IMG_4586.jpeg IMG_4590.jpeg
     
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