Any China Gold Panda collectors?

Hello all.

I'm wondering if there are any China Panda collectors?

Since ~ 1980 I've been accumulating/collecting China Panda bullion in silver and 1/2 ounce/(now 15 gram) Gold.

I have a complete (today to present) Panda 1/2 ounce gold collection.
I have to sit down and finally sort and Lighthouse-mount my close-to silver collection...including some early proofs.

Some dedicated China collector Forums have come and suddenly disappeared in recent years. I don't focus on the esoteric releases..just the basics.

Now retired, my cash flow is extremely variable and I buy when I have the chance. My 2025 15 gram (1/2 ounce) gold panda arrived today. It was a BEAR to find somewhere available given the current RUN ON physical gold. My Panda arrived mint sealed...like 99% of my collection.

 

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I have one gold panda but I slapped it into a 14k bezel and it's now a pendant, I had some silver pandas but sold them awhile back.

 

I purchase them as they're beautiful, occasionally priced below certified Gold Eagles, and I've 2 Chinese Gran-daughters that we went to rural China and adopted.

They truly love their surprise gifts!

 

NEVER!

The Chinese import huge numbers of counterfeits to this country which hurt collectors and the hobby in general. I don’t care how attractive these things are, they will never be in my collection.

 

I bought 2 back in the 1980's (dated 1985 & 1986, I believe). Sold one when I was restoring my '69 Mustang, still have the other one. Hmmm, maybe a good time to sell, with gold so high these days....

 

I agree about the fakes John. I only purchase from the largest and most reputable professional affiliated and specialist dealers. NEVER raw unsealed coins, tough dates I've purchased certified to fill the collection hole, and avoid the *bay and similar sites from unknown individuals or dealers. I'm starting to dabble in pre 1933 US gold Type Coins and getting an education re fakes in those categories, and confident purchasing, as well.

 

That is not the point. The point is you don't give your money to the Chinese who are marketing fakes PERIOD. We don't owe them a thing.

 

I buy gold but I’ve never bought a panda gold piece. Too many other choices are available and I stick with those, especially the US pieces.

 

Over the years I've sold one or two duplicate 1 oz Pandas to bay bills and the like...gold sure comes in handy to take some profits from long-held pieces.

 

Fine. I have a Panda gold coin to best man at my wedding, but that was over 40 years ago. I just won’t buy any Panda coins going forward.

 

I believe, if we're objective, this country is relatively, generally a "service society":

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Biggest Industries by Employment in the US in 2025

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• Supermarkets & Grocery Stores in the US.

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Overall, the federal government is the largest employer in the US. As of September 2023, approximately 2.95 million individuals were part of the US Federal workforce.Jan 11, 2024"

China is generally a society which economically produces items demanded by the world.

We have laws stating that U.S. buyers of Chinese products are required to label "COPY" on same.

Hmmm, I haven't seen many of those products offered on our Amazon or EBay leaders of internet product sales sites, just flash Gold plated products sold by?

Please join me in requesting that none of these unlabeled products are delivered to U.S. occupants.

Oh, I forget that new Federal Legislation should accomplish your goal of eliminating U.S. Fiat payment to China!

YEA!!

 

There's a difference between the Chinese Government and the Chinese people. Chinese people are just like anyone from any other country, some are good and some are not.

 

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• Visualizing China's Dependence on U.S. Trade
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So? What has that got to do China sending counterfeit coins here?

 

You all made your political post and points. Continued spamming and hijacking the thread I'll ask the Mods to lock or delete the thread.

 

Good! I am putting you on ignore. I make an obvious point that many collectors realize. Good bye!

 

I believe my efforts in a legal action would determine your accusations to be unfounded:

It's possible that Chinese and others of a differing than U.S. origin, as I've previously stated, may be delivering objects not produced by a U.S. mint, as many objects including U.S. "re-strikes" being sold on commercial sites as EBay.

I've listed the reported items believed allowed by U.S. Customs, that strongly inspects shipments from CHINA.

It's believed that shipments by, but not necessarily from CHINA authority, as U.S. Federal Reserve Worthless Notes are delivered throughout the World!

I trust you realize, as in the past, that our current "Notes" in circulation may exceed the value of U.S. Gross Domestic Product available for Sale!

Charles de Gaulle established similar, when requesting hard currency Gold for U.S. paper, generating implementation of our questionable Fiat monetary system! JMHO

 

The problem with China allowing counterfeit collector coins here has been plaguing the U.S. coin market for well over a decade. I don’t know what your motivation is for creating a smoke screen, but it’s a complete false narrative. Yes, others have made and continue to make counterfeit U.S. collector coins, but the Chinese are the main culprit.

The Chinese have expanded their nefarious trade to duplicating certification holders. That should disturb all collectors. Making excuses for the Chinese bad behavior is irresponsible.

 

I suppose, although a quick back-of-the-envelope calculation tells me the $800 I spent on the two Pandas would be worth over $15,000 if invested in an S&P 500 index fund.

I bought them because I was young with some disposable income and intrigued by the idea of adding some gold to my collection without much numismatic premium. I'm glad I did, it made me happy.