Silver getting crushed today

Discussion in 'Bullion Investing' started by Soiled, Apr 1, 2016.

  1. -jeffB

    -jeffB Greshams LEO Supporter

    That's the one thing that's sure to make sense, regardless of whether silver goes up, down, or off into the fourth dimension. Various investment strategies might make you more or less money in the future, but if you're getting enjoyment today, you've already won.
     
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  3. doug444

    doug444 STAMPS and POSTCARDS too!

    Someday, as PM prices advance, LCS coin dealers may "adjust" their 90% silver over-the-counter buy prices for the WEIGHT of the silver too, not just for the face value. There might be a big sign posted:

    ATTENTION - 90% SILVER SELLERS

    Per $100 face value, under 68.75 Troy ounces, deduct 3% (3.8% light)
    Per $100 face value, under 70.25 Troy ounces, deduct 2% (1.7% light)
    Per $100 face value, over 72.00 Troy ounces, add 1% (0.7% heavy)

    We reserve the right to waive these adjustments based on market conditions.


    [I just made these numbers up, based on a standard 71.5 ounces ASW. But no one wants a bunch of 1917 Mercury slicks so thin you can read the mint mark from the obverse :yack:]
     
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  4. TheMont

    TheMont Well-Known Member

    I mentioned in an earlier posting that a local shop weighed the junk silver, multiplied the result by 90% and then added 5% to the total for the final price. In other words he got 5% over melt. I was told that I should have asked him o charge me a certain amount times face for a better deal. Just for the heck of it, I counted the face value of the coins and I wound up paying 15 times face, so it looks like I got the better deal by him just weighing it and the deal went faster for him. I guess he does it that way to say the time it would take him to total up the face, it's quicker to just weight it.
     
  5. Clawcoins

    Clawcoins Damaging Coins Daily

    It also depends upon your selling audience. On some sites out there people are paying premiums for ASEs.

    I've been building a set (with plenty of spares) of 1986-2016 ASEs. The most I've spent for any one is about $24. and I have 86-94, 2000,03,05, 08, 2010-2016 so far. My last batch was 19.07/ea which was a $4ish premium over spot.

    Many of these years are going for quite a bit more on some sites.
    If I sell them to a LCS, they'll give me spot (unless I know their value and ask for more while still allowing them some headroom), or back to say apmex/ provident. In a down market, and quick cash, I'll get spot. If I want to sell and hold out for max premium I can actually make some money today considering the years that I have in watching them sell out there.

    I paid $21 for my '86 and on ebay they're selling for $33+ in raw BU.
    It all depends upon your mindset on silver, ASEs, how you plan on selling it, the market at the time and the urgency in your selling, your knowledge of where and how to price it dependent upon the audience and the demand/supply.

    Add to that that they are mighty pretty.

    This argument can be made for any PM product made and sold by the USMINT. Why would anyone buy any USmint PM product? But people do, and they make money on it too at times.
     
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  6. Clawcoins

    Clawcoins Damaging Coins Daily

    Looks like Dec 7th all over again ..
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    anyone know why the large 50cent uptick yesterday ?
     
  7. -jeffB

    -jeffB Greshams LEO Supporter

    I ran off to the news sites yesterday when I saw it. Judging from all the "BREAKING NEWS" banners, it was clearly Megyn Kelly's move to NBC that did it.
     
  8. Bman33

    Bman33 Well-Known Member

    Was wondering what caused the spike myself. Something to do with being back from the Holidays? Who knows.
     
  9. TheMont

    TheMont Well-Known Member

    Maybe the spike was caused by the fact that people are starting to get their tax forms in the mail.
     
  10. Clawcoins

    Clawcoins Damaging Coins Daily

    provident ASEs for $18.70 .. roughly $2.20 over spot right now.

    and they started taking electronic checks

    just dropped down to $18.67 ...
     
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  11. Bman33

    Bman33 Well-Known Member

    I got notification from JM Bullion about the eChecks but not Provident. When did you get the Provident Notification?
     
  12. Clawcoins

    Clawcoins Damaging Coins Daily

    When I went through the Check out process. The "mail in a check" was replaced with electronic Check.

    I noticed last week another site stated eChecks were coming. So I figured they'd all do the same thing. Saves on money and adds a few days. No problem.
     
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  13. Bman33

    Bman33 Well-Known Member

    Should make the time less to get your order I assume because you don't have to snail mail it.
     
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  14. Clawcoins

    Clawcoins Damaging Coins Daily

    Yes, eliminates the one way snail mail. So only 3-4 days check processing then they ship. Which, if silver drops a good amount .. just cancel and rebuy versus an immediate pay and snail mail a check (if they allow that).
     
  15. -jeffB

    -jeffB Greshams LEO Supporter

    I'm not sure there's any way they could prevent you from canceling an e-check under those circumstances, but I'm pretty sure they'd block you for life after the first time.
     
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  16. MerlinAurelius

    MerlinAurelius Well-Known Member

    Provident does echecks too now? Very helpful info..Thanks Clawcoins!!
     
  17. Eaglefawn

    Eaglefawn Active Member

    Yes Clawcoins Tx for the heads up
     
  18. Clawcoins

    Clawcoins Damaging Coins Daily

    I guess Megyn Kelly's move wasn't all the reason for the PM moves ....
    ==> http://www.marketwatch.com/story/gr...gure-out-trump-the-metals-fans-say-2017-01-05

    ==> http://www.marketwatch.com/story/go...doubt-feds-appetite-for-rate-hikes-2017-01-05

    ==> http://www.marketwatch.com/story/do...ble-uncertainty-about-trump-future-2017-01-05
     
  19. -jeffB

    -jeffB Greshams LEO Supporter

    Breaking news: Gold sellers find reasons that everybody should be buying gold!
     
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  20. Clawcoins

    Clawcoins Damaging Coins Daily

    well, it's going to surge to $5,000 an ounce !! from the "charts" I've seen.

    I think you should buy my old car too.
     
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  21. Santinidollar

    Santinidollar Supporter! Supporter

    Nah. It's going to $10,000 an ounce.

    By the way, my controlling interest in the Mississippi River bridges around here is on the block, should anyone be interested.
     
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