Batten down the hatches... The waters are about to get rough

Discussion in 'Bullion Investing' started by Brett_in_Sacto, Nov 1, 2016.

  1. V. Kurt Bellman

    V. Kurt Bellman Yes, I'm blunt! Get over your "feeeeelings".

    Sure. Look at, ohh, just to pick one, HOW ABOUT THE LAST FIVE YEARS, PAL?

    And when you finish with that one, you might, umm, CHECK OUT THE 80'S AND 90'S!!
     
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  3. Brett_in_Sacto

    Brett_in_Sacto Well-Known Member

    Smart move. I just raised the rent on our rental to cover our increased costs. It was only $45 a month, but as the taxes and fees increase - well... I'm not in it to lose money. Nobody's in it for a loss. Some are a bit nicer and not looking to gouge, but as a renter you have no control.

    You also bought at a great time. Congratulations!

    I bought my 4th property in 2010 when popular opinion said real estate was dead and there would never be a recovery. So much for popular opinion. :cigar:
     
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  4. Brett_in_Sacto

    Brett_in_Sacto Well-Known Member


    Yes, it is. Just like cash is an asset, coins are an asset, a house is an asset - or an intangible bank account balance. It can also be viewed as money - or a store of money/currency.

    It is also considered as money and has value at any given time.

    Buy why argue over minutia? The one thing I can tell you today is that gold is going up - so if you have some, enjoy the day - and if you've made a bit, maybe even leverage it and bank the win. :)

    as·set
    ˈaset/
    noun
    noun: asset; plural noun: assets
    1. a useful or valuable thing, person, or quality.

    2. property owned by a person or company, regarded as having value and available to meet debts, commitments, or legacies.
     
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  5. Johndoe2000$

    Johndoe2000$ Well-Known Member

    Why the bold print ? Are you yelling at us ?
     
  6. Brett_in_Sacto

    Brett_in_Sacto Well-Known Member

    It's 2 words in small case. That's the dictionary yelling at you I suppose? :rolleyes:
     
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  7. V. Kurt Bellman

    V. Kurt Bellman Yes, I'm blunt! Get over your "feeeeelings".

    Not "us" or "you'ns" or "y'all", just one moron. But he wanted a chart, so ... here goes:

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    Inflation adjusted and logarithmic scale, too! (makes it look less bad)

    WAAAAY more time losing value than gaining it. Just like I said - slow gradual declines and rapid ascents. I can't help you if you can't read. Or is 36 years too short a horizon for you? :rolleyes:

    Q.E. frickin' D.

    All that squiggly stuff? Down at the middle bottom? That's when I was buying silver, not now.
     
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  8. Danjohnson

    Danjohnson Well-Known Member

    I'm more of the mind that "assets put money in your pocket" (income) whereas holding "gold money" has a cost associated with it, pays no interest and is therefore, a liability. Storing, protecting, etc...
     
  9. Danjohnson

    Danjohnson Well-Known Member

    This is what I asked from you: "if you're inferring the price in fiat dollars "generally decline" over the long term (say from the Nixon Shock to present), I'd certainly like to see a chart of that. - Dan

    I bolded it this time to help you see clearly FWIW. (lol)

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  10. Truble

    Truble Well-Known Member

    Check out the purchasing power chart of the U.S. Dollar since the FEDs manipulation. Just saying it doesn't look any better.
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  11. Danjohnson

    Danjohnson Well-Known Member

    Here's an even better one IMHO. DOLLAR-VS-GOLD.jpg
     
  12. Clawcoins

    Clawcoins Damaging Coins Daily

    Depends upon your accounting definition of an "asset" or "money", which by certain definitions any form of money is an asset (versus a liability).

    If you don't use accounting methods to define your "stuff" then it isn't.

    Edit: just saw your definition. So it isn't considered an asset in your "books".
     
  13. Danjohnson

    Danjohnson Well-Known Member

    Absolutely agree with that and probably other POVs equally qualify. I was merely sharing my idea on what qualifies in my mind and why.
     
  14. Clawcoins

    Clawcoins Damaging Coins Daily

    Just keep in mind your estate will be inventoried and assets/liabilities will be distributed differently than your thought process. But by then, who cares.
     
  15. Danjohnson

    Danjohnson Well-Known Member

    Ha! Yep, I'll have bigger problems or not! (lol)
     
  16. Clawcoins

    Clawcoins Damaging Coins Daily

    Looks like Silver and Gold are crashing back down today.
    Silver down 0.35 right now
    and Gold down 5.30
     
  17. treehugger

    treehugger Well-Known Member



    That's great! Can we unbatten the hatches now?
     
  18. V. Kurt Bellman

    V. Kurt Bellman Yes, I'm blunt! Get over your "feeeeelings".

    I haven't looked yet, but I bet when I go to realclearpolitics.com, there's a different trend today from Tuesday's.
     
  19. Brett_in_Sacto

    Brett_in_Sacto Well-Known Member

    My hatches are battened down until after January unless I see a different forecast. I'm a contrarian, and always watch for falter in the status quo.

    I'm stocked with gold, silver, tinfoil hat, ammo, underground bunker and lots of toilet paper and MRE's. :D:rolleyes:

    As Santini always reminds us, one day does not a market make. :)
     
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  20. Clawcoins

    Clawcoins Damaging Coins Daily

    I think I'll sell my stockpile of toilet paper now.
     
  21. Bman33

    Bman33 Well-Known Member

    I'll stick to my coin roll hunting finds for my silver needs. Was tempted to get a few tubes of silver rounds.
     
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