Help needed, please?

Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by Topcat7, Jul 2, 2016.

  1. Topcat7

    Topcat7 Still Learning

    I have this (Bronze) coin that appears to have Tyche (?) on one side and another Goddess on the other.(I feel that I should recognize her.)
    Can anyone help me to identify it, please?
    It is 22 mm., 7.58 gm.
    Cleaning tips?

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    Last edited: Jul 2, 2016
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  3. Sallent

    Sallent Live long and prosper

    I can't help you with the attribution, but for cleaning you can always start with distilled water, and then olive oil.
     
  4. Pishpash

    Pishpash Well-Known Member

    I think you would be lucky to get this any cleaner. No idea on attribution, sorry TC.
     
  5. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    Cool patina ... yah, looks like Tyche for sure, eh?

    I suck at coin ID-ing ... that's probably why I buy already identifiable coin-targets (I'm a spoiled lil' rich kid!!)

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  6. Sallent

    Sallent Live long and prosper

    Off topic, but cool pair of Canadian speedos. Happy belated Canada day.
     
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  7. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    Yah, I strap those on for all of the stat holidays (it's my fancy avatar)

    => always a winner!!



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  8. TIF

    TIF Always learning.

    Is there a vertical legend on the reverse, to the right of the standing figure?

    The reverse might be Apollo, maybe like these examples from Cilicia, Kelenderis?

    As for cleaning, with this one I'd be temped to give it a brief soak in lemon juice or vinegar. Its appearance is similar to a Pontos bronze I successfully cleaned in such a manner. If you do use a weak acid, watch closely and be sure to soak in several changes of plain water afterwards.
     
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  9. Topcat7

    Topcat7 Still Learning

    Thanks, Sallent, Pish, Steve.

    @ T.I.F. I did check CNG (as you once told me) but the choices were too many when I just typed in 'Tyche'. As for the lettering on the reverse - there could be some there, but it is too hard to make it out, (hence my request for cleaning tips).
    I have soaked it in D.M. Water for a month, and then brushed with a cut-down tooth-brush, and this is the best I could get.
    I will try the Lemon juice. Conc. or diluted?
     
  10. TIF

    TIF Always learning.

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  11. New Windsor Bill

    New Windsor Bill Well-Known Member

    After the lemon juice, YOU MUST NEUTRALIZE THE COIN WITH BAKING SODA. Wet the coin and rub between your fingers and rinse. If you don't neutralize that lemon juice acid the coin will further corrode. Try on a dirty copper penny first. I have made copper pennies look brand new but you have to also watch it; to long in the lemon juice you will ruin it. GOOD LUCK
     
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  12. TIF

    TIF Always learning.

    NWB is correct, and I left that important part out of my instructions above. It's in the more complete instructions in the Pontos thread I linked.
     
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  13. Topcat7

    Topcat7 Still Learning

    Thanks T.I.F.
    Thanks NWB

    I will try it when I get home.
    Now, I am off 'joyriding' in a helicopter, for a while.

    (Any further thoughts I will read on my return.)

    Edit: @T.I.F. I have read the 'Pontos' thread and copied the instructions to follow on my return.
     
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  14. Brian Bucklan

    Brian Bucklan Well-Known Member

    If you want a best guess try this coin (same size and weight):

    KINGS of CILICIA. Philopator. Veiled and turreted bust of Tyche right / Athena Nikephoros standing left
     
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  15. TIF

    TIF Always learning.

    That looks like a very good possibility.
     
  16. chrsmat71

    chrsmat71 I LIKE TURTLES!

    could the reverse be poseidon holding a dolphin? i keep thinking i see a dolphin tail.
     
  17. Topcat7

    Topcat7 Still Learning

    (I am back from my joyriding . . . )

    I am (almost) convinced that THIS is it.
    Magical Snap - 2016.07.03 09.59 - 087.jpg
    (Courtesy of Acsearch)
    What do you think?
     
  18. Pishpash

    Pishpash Well-Known Member

    Definitely a possibility. Can you make out any of the legend on your coin?
     
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  19. Topcat7

    Topcat7 Still Learning

    @ B.B. - No link to the coin that you had in mind, and the only coins i could find with that 'reference' showed Tyche with a different veil setup, and Athena is 'helmeted' and is holding a shield.

    @ Pish - Sorry, without further cleaning, I am unable to confirm the legend.

    @ Chris - Sorry. No dolphin.
     
  20. TIF

    TIF Always learning.

    YES! I think you've nailed it!! Great job, TC :)

    The reverse figure's robe doesn't look right for the other examples we posted. The Sardes Zeus looks just right and you can see a hint of the monogram below his outstretched arm. I can just make out a bit of the reverse legend. Maybe your cleaning will reveal more, but I believe you've found the ID.

    CT-TC-TycheZeusAE.jpg

    It must not be a very common coin. I've only dug up four examples: one each in CNG's archives, acsearch, Wildwinds, and currently for sale on Vcoins.
     
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  21. Topcat7

    Topcat7 Still Learning

    Thanks, T.I.F.
    I/we really appreciate and value your input.
    (It has been a 'good' day.)
     
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