TIF made me do it (again)... Caesar's Civil War

Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by zumbly, Jun 22, 2016.

  1. Anyone going to point out that the reverses are die matches? You can even see the hairline die break? at the top of Zeus' hair line, on either side of his head, on each coin; although more prevalent on Zumbly's.
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    Sorry that the obverses aren't matches; you guys are only half special friends now. ;)

    Lovely coins, both; now i need one.

    -Michael
     
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  3. TIF

    TIF Always learning.

    Zumbly, you are my Full Special Friend despite the lack of an obverse die match :kiss::D

    For type 445/1a and 1b, Crawford cites fewer than 30 obverse dies and fewer than 33 reverse dies. 1a and 1b are essentially the same except 1a's reverse also has a harpa.

    That we have a reverse die match isn't as noteworthy as it would be for a later roman coin with manyfold more dies, although I still think it's cool :)
     
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  4. Sallent

    Sallent Live long and prosper

    Wow, there is absolutely no doubt with that one that it is a perfect die match. I've seen some "experts" claim die matches where I honestly could not see it, but that one even a non-coin person could spot. That is as perfect a die match as one could hope for.

    Lovely coins, both of you.
     
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  5. zumbly

    zumbly Ha'ina 'ia mai ana ka puana

    @iamtiberius, good eye! I remember saying to TIF we had a reverse die match, but didn't notice the faint die breaks.

    :). I'm sure an obverse die match is on the cards what with all the coinstalking opportunities I get :D.
     
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  6. Carthago

    Carthago Does this look infected to you?

    Here's another one minted under the authority of the same men, though quite a bit more rare that the triskeles type. Sydenham R7 though that has always seem a bit too rare from my review of older catalogues.

    According to Sear in CRI "Caesar himself records (De Bello Civili, iii, 4, 1) that 'He [Pompey] had made up nine legions of Roman citizens - five which he had brought across from Italy; one of veterans, from Cilicia; one from Crete and Macedonia, of veterans who had settled in these provinces after their discharge by their previous commanders; and two from Asia, which Lentulus when consul had ordered to be enrolled'. Thus, we know that Lentulus was active in raising troops for Pompey in the province of Asia, and it seems probable that this denarius was issued at Ephesus in connection with these activities." p. 7

    L Cornelius Lentulus and C Claudius Marcellus Denarius 445:3b NAC 2007.jpg

    L. Cornelius Lentulus and C. Claudius Marcellus. Summer 49 BC. AR Denarius (18mm, 3.71 g, 11h). Ephesus mint. Head of Jupiter right, wearing long beard / Cult-image of Diana (Artemis) Ephesia facing; COS (MAR) up left, L • LENTVLVS down right. Crawford 445/3b; CRI 6; Sydenham 1031; Kestner 3532; BMCRR East 23; Cornelia 66.
     
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  7. zumbly

    zumbly Ha'ina 'ia mai ana ka puana

    Wow, that's a remarkably nice example! Much more detail on the cult statue than is usual.
     
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  8. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

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  9. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    Ditto... Wonderful coin @Carthago
     
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  10. Mikey Zee

    Mikey Zee Delenda Est Carthago

    Add me to the growing list of admirers @Carthago....WONDERFUL coin!!!
     
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