Bad Coins and Bad NGC Slabs- Not for the Faint of Heart...

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by Jack D. Young, Mar 16, 2023.

  1. Joel Turner

    Joel Turner Active Member Supporter

    Thanks again for getting the word out. This is very concerning!
     
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  3. Kentucky

    Kentucky Supporter! Supporter

    Damn
     
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    At minimum I'd guess these are genuine NGC cores. The wider tabs holding the coin were used for a period of time in the past. The three vs four is based on coin size what does and doesn't get it. Experienced collectors would know but are even they prepared to look for that and expect it?

    The labels are obviously images grabbed off of NGCs site and printed out to roughly the same size (but not the same quality). Inserted with fake coin into what may be real NGC slabs and cores. Yep, if you weren't vigilant before you better be now! Doesn't look like they're discriminating. Thank you for posting this!

    Will add it takes a real scum of the Earth to do this and I would vote for 17th century style penalties for the perpetrators.
     
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  6. Evan Saltis

    Evan Saltis OWNER - EBS Numis LLC Supporter

    I would be suspect to the individual who tried to sell them.
     
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  7. Cheech9712

    Cheech9712 Every thing is a guess

    Coin world should see theses!!!!!
     
  8. Cheech9712

    Cheech9712 Every thing is a guess

    I think TPG should put out warning of fakes
     
  9. Jack D. Young

    Jack D. Young Well-Known Member

    I haven't been successful getting Coin World's attention in several past attempts...

    NGC does mark the on-line certs with notes for reported counterfeits; PCGS not so much.
     
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  10. Evan Saltis

    Evan Saltis OWNER - EBS Numis LLC Supporter

    I'm sure the TPGs want to minimize the prevalence of altered/faked slabs in the media.

    Best course of action would be making the NFC chip STANDARD across all services.
     
  11. Heavymetal

    Heavymetal Well-Known Member

    I could easily be selling something fake any time I help someone with an inheritance.
     
  12. green18

    green18 Unknown member Sweet on Commemorative Coins Supporter

    You're too kind..... devil.gif
     
  13. numist

    numist Member

    As damaging as this is to the hobby I can't fathom why CW, PCGS or others would balk at getting this type of thing in front of everyone. It should be 'page 1' throughout the hobby.
     
  14. Jack D. Young

    Jack D. Young Well-Known Member

    Staying with a theme...

    This one was just listed on the Bay; seller's on the left, NGC images on the right. See anything missing:D?

    1876 obv slab comp.jpg
    1876 obv comp.jpg
    1876 rev slab comp.jpg
    1876 rev comp.jpg
     
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  15. J.T. Parker

    J.T. Parker Well-Known Member

    She lost her 'folds'
    J.T.
     
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  16. Heavymetal

    Heavymetal Well-Known Member

    No S mint mark
     
    Last edited: Mar 17, 2023
  17. furham

    furham Good Ole Boy

    Now that's funny
     
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  18. Kentucky

    Kentucky Supporter! Supporter

    Her hand has "melted"
     
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  20. Joel Turner

    Joel Turner Active Member Supporter

    Its orange hoodie now, thank goodness. The proliferation of these fakes are terrible.
     
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  21. masterswimmer

    masterswimmer A Caretaker, can't take it with me

    @Jack D. Young thank you for your diligence staying on top of these criminals.

    Lots of people questioned why I started this thread.....

    https://www.cointalk.com/threads/our-beloved-coin-collecting-hobby-is-becoming-discouraging.403438/

    The advanced technologies these criminals are employing to deceive us is becoming an incredible burden for the casual collector. I'm relatively sure most of the members here do their due diligence before buying anything numismatics related. And yet I'm also sure many of us are still taken for a ride. So sad.
     
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