Something wrong with bullion

Discussion in 'Bullion Investing' started by SD51555, Feb 3, 2016.

  1. Brett_in_Sacto

    Brett_in_Sacto Well-Known Member

    The first mistake is listening to the government pundits trying to perfume the pig. They have a social engineering agenda to make everyone think that all is well.


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  3. Cascade

    Cascade CAC Grader, Founding Member

    Well it looks like the wicked witch of the fed scared the crap out of people.

    Jk, but gold & silver are waaaay up pre bell today :D

    World financial markets are dumping! Scarry times for sure but at least we're seeing what we want to see with pm's. (For the time being anyway)
     
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  4. Cascade

    Cascade CAC Grader, Founding Member

    We're is everyone??? Today is the day we've all been waiting for (said with cautious trepidation) and the bullion forum is dead this am. Gold has broken its downtrend with silver lagging but coming up... us equities and pm's are the go to safe havens right now as Yellen just pretty much said we will be going negative interest.
     
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  5. Gilbert

    Gilbert Part time collector Supporter

    Looking at the five and ten year charts for au and ag doesn't really put me in a jubilant mood. Another month or two of PM price appreciation might get my attention.
     
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  6. Santinidollar

    Santinidollar Supporter! Supporter

    Today is one of those chicken-with-his-head cut-off days in all markets. Yellen getting off TV would be a good start.

    Highlight of this morning's hearing: one of the senators told Yellen that the other Fed governors should stick a sock in it and quit roiling markets "when they don't know what they're talking about." Amen.
     
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  7. Comixbooks

    Comixbooks Active Member

    yeah it's going up like Crazy today 16.02
    wish I actually owned more
     
  8. longnine009

    longnine009 Darwin has to eat too. Supporter

    Some believe that whenever the dow meets Norman Bates investors will sell metals to cover margin calls.
    And you know, Norman's been pretty busy lately on wallstreet.

     
  9. desertgem

    desertgem Senior Errer Collecktor Supporter

    The number of investors that have purchased metal contracts on margin are very minimal today compared with years ago when all went crazy, so I don't think actual financial stress would affect the metal market. Any effect will ,IMO ,be all psychological among wantabee stackers. Some will want more and some will see a chance coming to cut and run from past expectations.
     
  10. Santinidollar

    Santinidollar Supporter! Supporter

    In this environment, margin calls are a real concern for any investor. Desertgem is correct -- when a margin call hits, winners have to be sold along with losers to pay back the brokerage house advance.
     
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  11. Brett_in_Sacto

    Brett_in_Sacto Well-Known Member

    I'm sorry... I was outside doing my favorite dance! :p

    And getting a bit of jewelry up onto Ebay. :greedy:

    I'm double-loving this, thinking about when I'll move assets back out of MM/Bond funds into mid/large cap. Maybe a small chunk today and book the win!

     
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  12. Santinidollar

    Santinidollar Supporter! Supporter

    Smart man!
     
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  13. Santinidollar

    Santinidollar Supporter! Supporter

    Great time to be shopping for solid dividend stocks! Just be sure you're not buying "an accidental high-yielder" that won't be able to sustain its dividend.:woot:
     
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  14. Brett_in_Sacto

    Brett_in_Sacto Well-Known Member

    I'm actually going to start making small moves into international again. Asia and BRIC. I only move what is in my wife's 401k, and I only move small chunks between funds. I'm not a major player by any stretch of the imagination.

    Also, a piece of advice I got from a very successful wealthy personal financial consultant (his own business - not a phone jockey with a list of best practices), who was a client of mine for a few years.

    The mid-cap 600 tends to be more stable than S&P, small cap and large cap. They tend to see higher appreciable gain in the market when it trends higher, and does not see as much loss during the downturns. My market research and graphs proved out this theory, so I'm well weighted in midcap 600.

    So if you are looking for domestic funds with some safety, take a look at market trends over the last 5-10 years of midcap 600. Of course... YMMV, caveat emptor, buy low - sell high, don't spit into wind, don't eat yellow snow, etc... Lots of disclaimers - but you get the idea.

    Do your research first! :)
     
  15. desertgem

    desertgem Senior Errer Collecktor Supporter

    Bought GDX 18 Straddles Mar 18 exp. Doesn't matter to me which way it goes, hope it does so this month :)
     
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  16. Brett_in_Sacto

    Brett_in_Sacto Well-Known Member

    This is kinda funny, posted back in September. Not claiming anything or endorsing. Just amusing and goes along with the day...

    Fear is our friend!

     
  17. SD51555

    SD51555 Active Member

    This isn't a bullion forum. It says that, but it's not. It's more so a coin collecting thread with some bullion topics scattered about.

    But here's a bullion comment: I'm shocked the up trend hasn't been faster. There must have been lots of shorts that got crushed and called due in the last 7 days.
     
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  18. Santinidollar

    Santinidollar Supporter! Supporter

    I love to see anyone who shorts anything get crushed. Sorry, that's just me:woot:
     
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  19. Brett_in_Sacto

    Brett_in_Sacto Well-Known Member

    Schadenfreude... I try to bet on winners, then hold or get out while the gettin's good.
     
  20. Brett_in_Sacto

    Brett_in_Sacto Well-Known Member

    Both orders arrived last night. Oddly they shipped two separate packages (not sure why they didn't combine and save shipping).

    Unfortunately they were left on my porch in plain sight without signature. I felt like calling and saying "never received" since a $2 signature is incredible insurance against such items. But I'm not that kinda person.

    And I got my ASE's for a great price - especially considering this week's run up.

    Boy did they include a lot of advertising in the packages!!! Full color catalog with outrageous prices and lots of BS.

    My favorite was "Own a Morgan Silver Dollar that was struck during the Black Bart era" as if it was from his personal hoard or something. Everything about the wording says "we're just playing on a classic name" and then they put it into a holder that says "Black Bart" and charge almost $100 for an XF common date Morgan. There was nothing that would confirm it was from his hoard or any relation to the coin.

    Technically it could have been anyone from the era with their name stamped on the slab.
     
  21. longnine009

    longnine009 Darwin has to eat too. Supporter

    Black Bart is sooooo last week. On the other hand, almost all the S mintmark Morgans can claim they're from the old Barbary Coast Era. The only exception being 1921S.

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