I'm all for freedom of speech, and the downers on silver don't bother me. But I do wonder why so many would spend their time talking about silver here if they are so negative on it? I think penny stocks are absolute junk as an example. I wouldn't dream of spending my time talking them down, I simply wouldn't participate.
Well, some of us are here for numismatic items, and less for bullion. But we are still curious about the shiny metals. So I like to lurk in the bullion area once in awhile and occasionally reply. I am not really "down" on silver, since I like it a lot. But I think many people here like to caution others who may have unrealistic expectations on bullion "investing".
But with this single post you unintentionally have spent time talking (typing) down penny stocks, just by expressing this and your opinion of them. So you have participated and by creation of this tread even invited and opened yourself up to more of those prone to talk down silver that you lament about. If you don't like it why question it or even read those comments or threads dissing PMs?
Yeah, you got a point there. It's just weird to me. I talk on forums about a number of different things, but it's all about stuff I'm interested in or impacts me directly. I was just wondering.
Yeah, better to just let others hot air drift away and move on to what things you enjoy, even within threads, you can just dismiss the comments you don't wish to deal with and direct comments and conversation on topic about what does interest you. There will always be trollish commentary and negativity, jealousy, etc. while others are trying to discuss it in another light. Sometimes when everyone is talking down one area of investing or collecting, that's a prime chance for you to see why and take advantage of something in that area everyone is opposed to as it might present future potential.
I agree with Geek. A new person is kind of stepping into the middle of an ongoing conversation. If you had read the ongoing barrage of "silver is the only REAL money", "this newsletter is promising silver will soon be over $100 an ounce", and "anyone who does not own PM will soon be unable to feed their children" posts, you would understand other posts better. Lots and lots of people over the years come here and groupthink the same phrases PM pundits put forward, (btw, the EXACT SAME thoughts put forward in the 1970's), how "paper money will soon be extinct, and all paper is worthless". All of these comments/discussion are welcome, but of course have been discussed. All I would ask, as a participant here, would be the poster should have REASONS why they believe this, not simply regurgitate the same verbage the people who make their living selling newsletters say. PM is a valid investment. I use it as part of my portfolio. I am trying to buy going down, I just picked up a classic eagle Saturday for just over melt. But if you are going to invest in something, you should have valid reasons not just the word of others IMHO.
IMO, SD was not talking (typing) down penny stocks, he was giving his opinion of penny stocks. BIG DIFFERENCE!
I only just recently got interested in bullion, I'm nearing retirement and started doing a lot of research on other sources of investment. What I came away from is that for me, silver is just not a particularly good investment based on historical performance. But, I like the way it looks in terms of aesthetics, so my plan is to buy silver coins for the looks and absolutely not an investment. Say ten years from now, I do know that what I've got will have some intrinsic value should I decide to sell and hopefully I won't lose anything. So for me, strictly a hobby with no thoughts of getting any significant return. I also do not believe in the Edited : language rules. scenarios etc out there. The only people making money on PM are the bullion dealers who produce newsletters and blogs saying "you've got to have PM" to survive.
It's a discussion forum. Agreement and disagreement are both valid forms of discussion. Some of us like a well-constructed and well-supported argument, and feel a compulsion to point it out when someone's cutting corners or making unjustified leaps. I like to get good information, especially information that challenges my assumptions -- otherwise, how can I find out when I'm wrong, and fix it? People who point out logical or factual problems help me do that. I hope that I can do the same for others. But mostly, it's a discussion forum.
It doesn't matter what his opinion about anything is. What I pointed out to him was that his statement didn't help him encounter less of what he wouldn't spend time on, yet by his own example he spent time initiating a thread, drafting a post with an opinion and opened a discussion on more than one point he 'wouldn't dream of spending his time talking down'-- only, he had spent time, even in the slightest amount of it, he spent that time. He participated, unintentionally, as I originally stated. BIG DIFFERENCE in what I actually said the first time around compared to how you twisted it about.
There's nothing to get over. It was a flawed OP that I and SD discussed and the rest of you are upset about. Chill out.
Have you ever considered the fact that those who "diss" silver are doing it only to discourage others from buying so that there will be more for themselves before demand causes it to rise in price? Chris
That seems to be your opinion. What I find ironic, is that you have spent a heck of a lot more time criticizing those few words than the OP spent typing them.
As are you well on your way to the same now... No, it was not my opinion that it was flawed. It was flawed because the OP was self-contradicting in his initial statement. 'Wouldn't spend the time doing (x)', but inadvertently, had done just that. Hence, flawed. There's also a difference in how I addressed the OP with a critical review of his first post, without "criticizing" him, as you've insinuated, making you doubly-wrong. And now comes you trolling along and with nothing much to add to this thread but sparks for a spat, sort of like how I also mentioned there will always be trolls-a-plenty! Bad case of the Mondays, have you?
Sigh... The point remains that it clearly wasn't the OP's intent to discuss penny stocks. He mentioned them as an example, and nothing more. You came along and just had to point out a flaw in his post, and that is what I am objecting to. I am not criticizing the content of your posts, I am objecting to your intent to belittle a fellow member.
Much like the flaw in the OPs thread, you are doing much the same then towards me... Also, I never made attempt to belittle the OP!
Yeah, I did mention "chill" earlier in this thread already and it's certainly 5 o'clock somewhere in the world...