That's probably the limits the mint will set, even though the 2012's sold out and the new lower price should produce higher sales.
If the White Mtn goes dark below 10,000 I might buy a few of the others to hold. Gotta be below 10,000 though.
To be fair, the mint should sell these like they sell the ASE sets, for a one month period, no mintage or order limits, and evenly spaced throughout the year.
I think the mintage limits on the bullion version will have an impact on buyers as well. The mint may as well "work it" both ways.
Working it both ways would be like chewing gum & walking at the same time – I don’t think the mint has the mental capacity to do both. I haven’t collected the bullions because, why? The premiums for the P’s usually aren’t much more than the bullions and the P mintages are lower. So, for the few that I bought more than one, I bought extra P’s.
I've read recently that the 2013 hockey pucks may sell out quickly. I'm not sure if they are talking about the bullion or collector's version. Has anyone read the same thing? In any case, I'll be ready at noon on the 16th.
Phil, that info certainly catches me sideways. Never heard anything like that. Any rationale from that source? For bullion, I can see if the mintage is limited to 20,000 like HI and Denali they might go fast. However, for the collector ones, if mintage max is 25k, I can't see why the mint would axe them early...unless there is some activity like that surrounding Hawaii which is contagious. Sure would love to hear some worthy theories on that. Come to think of it, I think it would be great if the mint would limit sales on each to one month only...
It seems that it is the bullion coins according to a coinflation article that I read. It may move to the collector's coins. Here's the article for those interested in the pucks. http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/05/08/usmint-coins-silver-idUSL2N0DP2K320130508
I did read somewhere that the mint would ration the bullion versions to its authorized purchasers if demand exceeds supply, like they do now for ASE’s. No talk of limited bullion mintage – sounded like they’d make more if they ran out, but who knows with the mint.
I seem to remember a certain person saying that by the summer the Hawaii P-Pucks would be selling for $200-$250. Well silver is below $22 and I just walked outside and it sure feels like summer, it's hot. Well in a few hours, on Feebay, there is a "raw" 2012-P Hawaii P-Puck with 5 bids.....up to $620. HHHHHMMMMMNNNNN...:hail:
Even the bullion version of Hawaii is nuts, many selling for high 200's and into the 300's....and Denali isn't too far behind...
Fair enough. You aren't talking about me, but I admit I said if 2013 is even lower mintages these would crash. It appears 2013 will be higher than 2012, so I see 2012 holding their value, (until a lower mintage is produced, IF it is that is).
I imagine that flippers bought lots of the 2013-P White Mtn. hoping for less than 15,000 made. Now that 15,000 has been exceeded I wonder how well the rest of these will do. I'll pass on the 2013s.
I was going to buy them, then saw the mintages. Hmm, maybe I will buy the reverse proof buffalo instead for my son to be born this year.
For a silver coin, which enjoys a much larger collector base than gold coins, all of the P 5oz’ers are ridiculously low mintage. Granted, the lowest mintage one(s) will enjoy significant premiums over the others, but, in the long run, all of the mintages are so low, that all will enjoy price gains, given a modest increase in collector base. Even now, all are holding or increasing their value in a crashing silver market.
Ok. Get back to me with that thought if we ever have a lower mintage in that series. I simply believe its a case the Hawaii issue got the early publicity, and has kept it as the "key". Happens more than you think in coin collecting. Look at BU mercuries, a 16s is MUCH rarer than a 16d in BU grades, yet the 16d is far more expensive. I simply do not buy the argument about "people's honeymoon's" or similar driving demand for these. I very well could be wrong of course.
Have you held one? It is an aesthetic knockout - the value is derived from that. It is clear when you hold it-it is something special.
the 2013 5oz 25th anniversary of the maple leaf coin puts them all to shame...but thats just me...mintage = 2,500