Forget the flippers and taking profits. If ASEs were your obsession, wouldn't you be upset if the mint lied? I guess CW is not the New York Times...(edited redundancy)
Well yeah, the mint employee is their PR person who is supposed to be relating facts, not attempting to mislead us. I don’t even believe it was incompetence, as no effort was made to correct the CW article, it was complete lack of ethics.
If ASE's were an obsession of mine (and they are) I wouldn't care, I'd buy the blasted set (which I did)......
If the Mint lied I would. But here's the issue. The Mint never announced that the coins would be exclusive. Coin World reported that they would be and cited a Mint employee as their source. In 1948, the Chicago Tribune (a respected news source at the time) reported that Dewey had defeated Truman for the presidency. Many times news sources are wrong. Be careful calling the Mint a liar in this case as it is Coin World if anyone who mislead. If Coin World was selling them, then I'd see your point, but to blame the Mint for something that you read in Coin World is misplaced anger IMHO. that doesn't make me a Mint apologist. It makes me someone who is able to see who said what to whom. The worst part is, that IIRC you could have canceled your order or returned the set and gotten your money back. He's upset that his money making opportunity is spoiled not that he got cheated.
Taken within the context of the startling appearance of the currency set RIGHT AFTER ending sales on the SF set, of course it was shady or incompetent dealings...how can you say otherwise with a straight face, with or without the CW interview? Seriously! How does marketing work? You prime the pump plenty ahead of time, get people lined up to buy, then unfold it. NOT what happened with the currency set. ETA: IIRC you couldn't have returned within 7 days after finding out about the currency set... Oh, and I'm not angry, just disappointed.
Now you guys got me all upset about this again! I'm going to have to get a letter writing campaign going. Like a letter to President Obama complaining about the mint director's lack of ethics and use the 2012 set as one of many examples.
why didn't you return the set? You didn't have to keep it. You're upset because you saw $$$ and they weren't there in reality.
We have a brand new Mint Director, BTW. He just started this past month. You can't blame him. If you're looking for the right person to blame I suggest a mirror.
If you received it, then found out more than 7 days later it would not be unique, it would be too late to return.
The mint employee is their PR person who is supposed to be relating facts, not attempting to mislead us, which they certainly did. I think you could make a case that a seller could be held to what their representative says.
"We" as in your boss? I'd say write the letter anyway, so the new guy knows he can't continue the same old BS.
Hey, another conman is selling these 2012 sets on TV right now! He actually said the S mint regular proof is available only in the 2012 set!
I wonder how many of the mintage of ASE's have been purchased solely to sit in IRA's; especially from 1986-1996 when ASE's were the only one ounce silver coin approved option.
No, I'm not a mint employee, but I don't see the world through dollar signs, either. The mint manufactured collectible Eagles and sold them to anyone wanting to buy them, not just to a select few, as they do with the bullion issues. If you want a guaranteed profit, become a mint authorized dealer of bullion coins. Anything else is pure speculation. Both you and I lost on what was assumed, due to bad reporting, that the 2012 SF sets were "exclusive". I, however, knowing the truth about this issue, still assumed the risk. I am not complaining that I was 'screwed', though. The 'Dewey beats Truman' analogy is fitting in this situation. Apparently, personal responsibility is almost dead. More and more, people convince themselves that their troubles are always the fault of someone else. No one wants to suck it up and take it like a man.
Kripes you guys were up late last nite....... Good morning friends. The 2012 American Eagle San Francisco Two-Coin Silver Proof Set went on sale June 7, 2012 and was on sale till July 5, 2012....roughly a one month time frame to purchase this set. The announcement for the release of this set was first heralded in Coin Update on April 24, 2012. http://news.coinupdate.com/american-silver-eagle-san-francisco-two-coin-set-scheduled-1335/ I ordered one set on the first day (6/7) of the offering. My set was shipped on July 27th and arrived at my residence in early August.....I can't remember the exact date, and FDX says the tracking number is no longer valid, but it was a few days into the month. The Making American History Coin and Currency Set went on sale August 7, 2012 and still remains on sale at the mint web site. News for this product was first reported in Coin Update on July 18, 2012. http://news.coinupdate.com/new-products-added-to-us-mint-release-schedule-1486/ Now, if you guys felt that you were being hosed or abused by the US Mint you had more than enough time to cancel your orders as the announcement for the currency set was released a few weeks prior to the shipping of the two coin set. Or do you boys not read the paper? :devil:
BS. "Personal responsibility" is used way too often to turn the tables by those that are screwing us. You can argue all you want, to no avail, that the mint didn't mislead us.
Well, I haven’t actually analyzed the timeline, as it didn’t apply to me – could have cancelled my order. But, that’s not the point – the point is I tied up funds for a deal and the mint delivered a lesser deal.