African Mining Scams?

Discussion in 'Bullion Investing' started by Owle, Jan 30, 2012.

  1. Owle

    Owle Junior Member

    I keep getting these solicitations:

    Dear Sir,

    We can supply raw gold and rough diamond from Ghana and Guinea leone at competitive prices.Our procedure is FOB Ghana and Guinea leone, whereby buyer and seller meet at seller's location and sign SPA contract before closing deal at seller's location.Our local price for gold is $39,000 per kilo and our gold is +22 carats and 96% purity.

    However, if you want us to deliver on CIF procedure, then you must be ready to provide us with an irrevocable/open BLC and we will deliver our gold to you on CIF basis.Our payment terms for CIF is via bank to bank wire transfer after refinery and assay in buyers location.

    Looking forward to your kind and timely response.

    Best regards,



    MR MANYATTA CL,
    21 CITE GRAND YOFF
    DAKAR-SENEGAL /+221-775-710-542


    Is this a variation of the Nigerian scams where they are looking for suckers to provide bank accounts that they can drain of cash?

    Why would a reputable company look for people like me? Surely top dollar can be had from the assayers with one of the most easily quantified substances on planet Earth. :smile
     
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  3. Cloudsweeper99

    Cloudsweeper99 Treasure Hunter

    Of course it is a scam. It's interesting that they offer a procedure for refinery and assay at the buyers location. Just tell them your location is FBI Headquarters in Washington and you'll meet them there next Thursday. :devil:
     
  4. medoraman

    medoraman Supporter! Supporter

    Of course its a scam, but I am wondering how. You know its a scam by the fungibility of the product, there is no need to find a buyer essentially.

    Its not a bank account scam per se. I am wondering if its a scam concerning the letter of credit, meaning the terms are loose enough you can never retrieve the money, or if they will basically kidnap you when you go to sign the documents at the sellers location, (in their country). Some rich guy wishing to buy gold would be a good kidnapping target I believe. A third possiblity would be the letter of credit would "fall through" and they would need a wire before delivery. I am curious intellectually as to where the scam part of this deal is falling. Please let us know if you ever find out.

    Chris
     
  5. desertgem

    desertgem Senior Errer Collecktor Supporter

    It is the mention of diamond rough that caught my eye. Unless the laws have changed, possession of diamond rough in that part of Africa is anything from a prison to worse. The "Companies" got the laws in exchange for high cost mining and processing rights from the governments.
     
  6. james m. wolfe

    james m. wolfe New Member

    Wikipedia_Gold_Bar.jpg go for it, you may get this??? :devil:
     
  7. kruptimes

    kruptimes Member

    Where do I Sign? With the government taking over my pension AND losing my EARNED lifetime pension health care, how could this be any worse than what the status quo has already done to me?
     
  8. james m. wolfe

    james m. wolfe New Member

    2803_medicated_vet_patch.jpg 6750r.gif join the club ???
     
  9. james m. wolfe

    james m. wolfe New Member

    View attachment 158968 Attachment removed for language ~Please read such attachments carefully before posting. If they are visible, they must follow the rules. sent this they may like it??? :devil:

     
  10. Owle

    Owle Junior Member

    I got this response from a seasoned lawyer:

    They're looking for either the BLC, or the wire transfer for either of which you would get nothing since they are insisting on cash up front.

    Real, legitimate precious metal/stone dealers do not send unsolicited offers out, they don't need to.

    I can't really imagine they actually get anyone taking them up on this, but you never know, some people really are dumbern' the rocks other people are trying to sell them
     
  11. medoraman

    medoraman Supporter! Supporter

    Interesting, kind of what I thought. Either a LC written in such a way they can collect without delivering the metal, or "something" would happen, and they would instead need a wire.

    Thanks for posting, I love reading about scams like this to keep up on them and how the scam works.
     
  12. Owle

    Owle Junior Member

  13. kaosleeroy108

    kaosleeroy108 The Mahayana Tea Shop & hobby center

    i could use some of that..
     
  14. kaosleeroy108

    kaosleeroy108 The Mahayana Tea Shop & hobby center

    but yes its a scam
     
  15. kaosleeroy108

    kaosleeroy108 The Mahayana Tea Shop & hobby center

    they take your money hold rallys or phone conferences and keep talking about the big pay off ... lol much worse than a pyrimid schemethe come up with explaination how things dont work out..
     
  16. Owle

    Owle Junior Member

    I keep getting these solicitations:

    From: Importers of Gold <importersofgold@yahoo.in>
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    To:"info@SupplyToRussia.com" <info@SupplyToRussia.com>
    Sent: Fri, Feb 17, 2012 02:49 PM

    Dear Sir/Madam.

    I Mr Dramane Diallo. hereby propose a business transaction on Gold-dust and Gold-bars. My company works, cordinates and represents a lot of local miners by providing technical and moral support for them to boost their production capacity. We mine and export Gold dust and other precious metals from Mali with government approved mining and export licence. We have our open pit in Sabadell community in Keyes Mali . We are interested on gold dust mining partnership and monthly supply contract to any reorganized refinery. We have the above mentioned product (GOLD) in large quantity ready for sale. Interested buyers, companies and firms are welcome for business discussion. We are also ready to go into long term contract with any company in exchange of our product (gold-dust) for your own line of product or services. You are free to contact us for more details. We also ship our product
    Item available.
    We presently have in Stock 4000 Kg AU.

    Quantity: 1000 kilograms available for export
    Purity: 92% +
    Fineness: W22 + Karat alluvial Au
    Origin: Mali , Price: $38,000 usd per kilogram
    Packaging: Metal export packaging
    Delivery: Cargo Air Way Bill
    Note: this offer is only for willing buyers, offer last for 30 days.

    Contact us for more inquiries and detail FCO.
    Commercial Director :
    Mr Klassine Kone.
    Manger: Daramane Diallo
    Skype:lassine55
    Tel: +223 765 311 66.
    Immeuble Koumara Bureare 56 B.P 2198
    Bamako Rep du Mali

    This looks kind of amateurish but the email address looks official, most of the ones in the past have been from an xyzname@yahoo or hotmail.

    Again, no chance this is legit. Why do they need to export gold?
     
  17. jjack

    jjack Captain Obvious

    If it is too good to be true fill in the blank ...
     
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