25th Anniversary Set Trade Request

I am wondering if anyone is willing to do a trade in the next week if my situation proves to be unresolved. What I am looking for is someone who is willing to trade a 25th anniversary set (5 coins) still sealed in the box from the mint for one that is out of the box from the mint. Actually any number up to 3 sets.

Here is my deal, I ordered 3 sets and it looks like UPS damaged the mint box and repacked it so I am guessing I won't be able to submit the sets for grading. I know some people are not going to submit theirs so I am just hoping to get a straight across trade so I have the sets graded. I know this sounds confusing, but I for pictures and more details you can read my thread here.

http://boards.collectors-society.com/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=5235899&fpart=1

I have contacted the mint and am awaiting their response.
I have contacted UPS to see what they have to say.
And lastly I sent pictures to NGC of the box and I am waiting to see if they will take the box as original.

My gut feeling is none of them will help me out as the customer...so that leaves me out here begging for a trade. Please let me know if anyone is interested. I can provide several references from the NGC forums that I have bought/sold with and my eBay user id as references. Thanks for looking.

 

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ya better open that box up and make sure there's something in there. If it's a re-pack job it's an extremely poor one.......

 

I wonder if there are still three sets in that box???

 

Trust me the curiousity is killing me, but I am waiting to hear from NGC before I open it, and then I will be standing at the UPS office when I do open it so they can witness it if they are empty.

 

Did you note this when you signed for the shipment? If so, you may at least get your money back if something is missing. Otherwise, what can you claim?

 

I had a commemorative set box and sleeve destroyed in the mail several years ago. I wrote to the Mint and told them there was nothing wrong with the coins, only the packaging was ruined. It would be foolish to return perfectly good coins for replacement when only the packaging was damaged. I asked if they would be willing to just send a nice sleeve and box as a replacement and that would be OK with me. I received a personal call and a prompt, courteous response. New packaging came in the mail in a few days.

I realize this is a different situation, but the Mint may be willing to accept a complete return shipment, repackage them in a nice case and return the coins to you. It would not hurt to ask.

 

Just an observation here, but the original box was designed to hold five sets......quite possibly six sets, less the packing material. That re-pack job screams of something terribly untoward.

 

Hey sorry to hear that man. But Truthfully from what ive been hearing from others that recieved coins that were defective, they wanted to send them back as a return or exchange and the mint told them that since this was such a sold out item and so many on the waiting list, that they couldnt exchange it, So I wish yoou the best of luck. But thats the main problem with accepting the package like that. Like SALTYSAM-1 said , Because what they will say is how do we know that you didnt open them yourself and take the sets out and repackage them or something. Im not saying that you did that. But thats probably what they will say. MY best advice would be is to try and just sell all of your sets, get as much money as you can for them, and then maybe by the same amount of sets sealed from another person whos selling them..

 

OK, we are getting off topic here...but to answer the questions.

I was at work when they arrived, my wife signed for the box and had no idea that it was repackaged, whoever repackaged the box did so with the intent to hide the original damage obviously.

Both the mint and UPS are supposed to be calling me today. I don't expect good news from either which is why I am asking other members if they are willing to trade.

I have read at least a dozen posts on here from others who have picked up 1 or 2 sets and are opening them, I am just trying to find someone who has no intent of having their set graded and trade me a set for a set so that I can have them graded. I would pay postage and insurance, just hoping to get lucky.

 

With only 2 sets, your odds of getting a full set of 70s is slim to none. Take it from somebody who has viewed 5 of them in hand. I don't think I had a full set of 70s with 5 sets of them. I'd save your money and just open the box. People are paying big bucks for 70s because they're that difficult to obtain. You'd probably need 10 to 15 sets graded to put together a set of 70s. Maybe more. Unless you really want to submit for some other reason?

 

Just an observation from someone who doesn't even own a set, but I think you need to add some incentive to your request. Most of the people who bought multiple sets, did so to flip or sell to recover their cost. No one did it for an even trade. And flippers won't do it to be nice guys and collectors probably just own one set and won't chance it. Perhaps another $100 on top of your exchange request, but even that may not be enough. Good luck.

 

Yeah. And plus, he doesn't even know what's inside the box at this point.

 

It makes me so sick how all these companies couldn't give the slightest bit of care for their customers. First they destroy the box and do a crap job fixing it, they don't care about you submitting to NGC and nothing will ever happen about that unless you sue, but what can you sue for unless you get all the coins graded anyway to determine their value. The mint may be willing to help, but from the way those boxes are put together, it looks like all the sets were just chucked in there. I wouldn't care what NGC has to say, I'd be in that box to make sure everything is still there/ not destroyed. It just aggravates me so much, hope everything turns out well.

 

I am sorry to say that under the condition that the box was been delivered, I would not have accepted it!!!!! IMO, that was a major mistake!

No-one would accept delivery of a wreck car from a dealer at the time of( buying) picking up a new car...


Learning experience!!!

I wish that the problem is resolved in a gainful way for you... Good luck!

 

It would take an incredibly generous soul to trade you an unopened box for an opened one, especially when unopened boxes are pulling a solid premium over opened sets. In reality it most likely will take a couple of C-notes to pull this one off. Hopefully NGC will accept your submission despite this issue and all this will be a moot point. I'll keep my fingers crossed for you!

 

I would have done with with you if you paid shipping, but I opened my box already...

 

Just to understand this you would have returned the box to the mint knowing you couldn't have them replaced?

Again, I would like to point out that my wife signed for them while I was at work. All she saw was a nice clean crisp box that UPS packaged. She didn't know it was from the mint or what it should look like. UPS repacked it with the intent to make it look like there was no damage originally. There is no other explanation...just keep that in mind if you ever use UPS to mail things...if they spill coffee on your package, they will likely open it up, go through all your stuff...sensitive, personal, expensive, etc...and repackage them after they are done fingering all of it to their satisfaction. That is the lesson I take away from this.

 

I have 3 sets, not 2.
MS69 sets are going for $1300-1450...I would have been completely satisfied with 3 sets of MS69's.

 

I've had more than a little experience with UPS and the "air" operation is quite different from the 'ground' operation. Next day Air packages are treated differently and don't travel the belt system within the sorting system. They're handled individually and receive much more personal care. That's not to say that a package could not bust open in the 'air' system. It can and does happen. For the life of me, Can't figure out why a box that only contained three sets would be repacked this way (from looking at your pictures in the OP). The box itself contained sufficient room as to not require another box to be employed on top. Very curious.

 

The boxes are 8" square so they aren't long enough so it takes 2 of these small boxes stacked to account for the length of the sets.