Regarding the Future of the Bullion Section

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Always... Rule number one in any forum is the List Admin is always right and never to be embarrassed in public...aside which you can't remove the human factor in any endeavorer.

 

I can't discuss religion on Coin Talk. I will say though that in my experience, I believe we agree more often than not. The posting of magazine articles as JPGs come to mind.

Ruben

 

Sounds like you want everything banned you don't believe in.

 

FWIW - there have been definite exceptions made when the politics was the politics of coin collecting. For example: We've argued and lobbied for changes in how congress makes changes in coin design. Wrong or Right, we've done this. We've argued about CAC and Grading company politics, as well as ANA politics.

If that is desired to be continued, I'd actually write that exception into the rules.

Ruben

 

No, I disagree with you. I don't think I can say it again better than I did, so I'd ask you to read it again and see if you get a better handle on what I was saying. If not, I'm sorry that I could not make the point clearer to you.

Ruben

 

Yes politcal and religious statements should not be allowed here.Bullion is a good forum but sometimes it gets off track with opinions in regards to the price and the cause.This can't help but turn politcal because,in reality,the two are so intertwined.This should not give anyone,however,the right to bring up a left or right wing agenda and start the name calling.This is where is goes from a bullion forum into a politcal forum and then is no way related to the original premise.
I also like to hear the theories in regards to the price of bullion [manipulation ect].I can either agree or disagree and leave it at that.I don't have to start blaming political figures and parties.
I guess a start would be to automatically ban the naming of political parties,politicians and making of religious statements and anything else that is demeaning to others.

 

Ruben, many did not see the birth of the internet like we did ( and others as old). Thus websites often are not recognized as the entity that they are, mainly that they are owned by someone, and that someone or organization makes the rules and allows access as long as the rules are followed. Many on the internet think that these are all free boards, and anyone can pursue any topic and use any language they wish. They view it as their rights~ Freedom of speech and all. Not so. This site has established rules and any one that feels they are above the rules is mistaken.

 

However, most of the threads that lately seem to have led to this thread, had the intervention of a moderator asking that the members posting recognize that subject was "going off thread subject". Yet the same direction was maintained until harsher action was taken. I agree it can be an intertwined area, but when warning as such is given and it continues to be ignored until locking threads, someone didn't listen.

 

I hear yah. I'd have more comment but it is unimportant and not really appropriate. What happened is in the past and there has been thoughtful responses to that event by the administration, and some resulting changes and as a forum member that is all anyone can ask. I just wanted to make my point about politics in the forum, and hopefully that can be helpful. As for the Bullion section specifically, this was something that Peter must had already noticed and had concerned him, because frankly I wasn't really aware that the locked thread was in the bullion section. I originally noted the thread because Doug had posted something I thought interesting in it If Peter perceives that the section seems to be operating differently than the other sections, I'd just say that it shouldn't. Other than that, I agree with Doug on the subject. I don't care about the bullion section other than it seems to function as an "advocacy" usenet group, in that it does a good job of drawing the bullion speculation conversations out of the other forums and thereby solves a significant problem. I don't think it can serve that purpose if it is hidden. And I don't think it should operate differently from other sections.

Ruben

 

Hah - your not that far in the sticks anymore, although I'm sure it might seem that way at time.

 

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BTW - if anyone gets a chance see this movie called "Winter Bone".

Ruben

 

That is one of the great things about living in NYC, and maybe Boston as well... the sticks aint really that far away. If I'm not mistaken GD is about 6 hours drive from Brooklyn.

 

OK - That is either a 5 1/2 hour drive or a 3 day, 20 hour walk.

Ruben

 

I feel that people should be able to have a discussion about bullion without being bombarded by political attacks. I think the only way to do this is by keeping it in the current section and by cracking down on offenders. I don't participate much in this area but I like to read some of the threads/posts. I do understand the quandary though as there are many things that influence prices, governments being one of the biggest. How do you have a meaningful discussion about what influences prices w/o including some level of political opinion? The rules should be a little more open (gray - not black or white) to allow meaningful opinions that are not framed in the form of an attack on a system or group. Moderators get the last word on what should be allowed and if people cannot participate properly then they should be dealt with based on the issue.

So my vote is crack down but with slightly different rules that allow discussion about the influences w/o attacking those influences or others that may have a different view. JMO

 

I personally disagree with this. There really doesn't need to be any gray. This just opens us up to another 20 more years of gentle evangelizing different non-conventional perspectives of monetary policy and politicking which are really not necessary for any aspect of coin collection topic, even bullion investing.

That is my opinion, although I don't speak for the moderators or forum administration.

Ruben