Nylon Can Cause Damage ?

I was wondering with all the talk about PVC , I was wondering if I stored my coins in nylon 2x2's could I also expect possible damage? Any and all answers would be greatly appreciated.

 

Log in or Sign up to hide this ad.

I've never heard of nylon 2x2s, but nylon is a very inert substance. I'm no chemist, but it doesn't seem to me that there would be any problem.

Mylar is chemically composed of oxygen, hydrogen and carbon. Nylon adds the inert gas nitrogen to the composition, so there is no reason to believe there would be the outgassing problem of pvc, which contains chlorine, a very reactive chemical.

I've also never heard of transparent nylon, so I'm assuming that nylon replaces the cardboard, but the 2x2s still have mylar windows and it is the mylar, not the nylon, which actually touches the coin.

 

I agree, Though ive never heard of nylon 2X2,S ??

 

I, likewise, have never heard of nylon 2X2's but yes, there is transparent nylon. So far as I know, nylon is about as inert as they come. That being said, I have never heard of archival nylon anything.

 

Never heard of any 2x2's being made with Nylon. And note there are as many varieties of Nylon as any product could possibly have. Although Nylon is basically only Carbon, Hydrogen, Nitrogen and Oxygen, almost all just gasses, there are also a wide variety of other substances added to this for various different results. Ever hear of Women's Nylons. Was at one time the replacement for Silk. Those were almost transparent. Now look at the numerous Nylon Gears in machinery today. Far from transparent and also very strong and non flexible.
Being a Synthetic Polymer known as Polyamides, the end results are excessively variable pending on the additives.

 

Thanks allot, just wanted to make sure wouldn't harm or scratch coins. By the way I make my own 2x2's. I use nylon tubing which is pretty much indestructible and cheap (100 foot roll costs 19.00 or .03 per 2x2) and seal with a heat sealer. Actually they are reusable and can withstand high temperatures of dry and moist heat. As per visibility they are comparable to mylar. If you so desire, you could bake it in your oven without damaging it. Can you do that with mylar? Consider if your coins were stored in a safe, and you had a fire.

 

First off, nylon will scratch coins as well probably most of the holders out there IF the coins are allowed to move against the plastic.

As for you fire damage, nylon offers little or no advantage over Mylar;

While nylon's melting point is 256 degrees C or about 490 degrees Fahrenheit.

Making your own 2X2's is just fine - so long as you don't get one of your coins too close to the sealer. The first time you ruin a coin, it will pay for a bunch of Mylar 2X2's. BTW, my Mylar's cost me either 3.25¢ or 3.5¢ each, so you are not saving much and if I can get them that cheap, buying on bulk will be even cheaper.

 

Mylar-D Ye Ha !!

 

I just obtained 300 cotton inserts for 2x2 envelopes. I firmly believe they are the best way to store coins for the long haul. It's not a good way to market coins, so the purpose of your holder is important.

I am getting more angry at the 2x2s every time I see an obvious staple scratch which has severely damaged a lovely old copper. The cost of convenience for marketing just seems too high when that occurs.

 

Out of curiosity, just what are you using for envelopes?

 

As per movement of coin, I can customize size to elliminate movement. I can virtually shrink wrap the coin and still be able to remove it without damage. I've done this numerous times. The idea is to seal as close to the coin without touching it. A simple process with the sealer I posess. As per buying in bulk as was suggested, all i know is that my roll of nylon tubing is about the size of a 2 inch size of electrician tape. Which I can store in my pocket of my jacket. How much storage will the same amount of coin envelopes lets say for discussions sake my 100 feet of tubing should I believe transfer over to approximately 600 envelopes if my math is correct how much space will that take? Space withstanding, I'm just glad that I'm not causing future damage using nylon as opposed to PVC. I really don't want to get into any kind of contest as to who stores their coins better than the next guy. All I know is that I'm happy and I appreciate all the input. It's nice to know that there are allot of nice people in this forum willing to answer any question no matter how stupid they may be.

 

I'd sure like to see a picture of your finished product containing a coin.

 

ive decided to only use 2x2s when getting lots of coins in the 1-5 dollar range. anything thats staying in my collection is going in an airtite.

 

No problem on the picture. I'll get a hold of a camera and put it here. May take a couple of days.

 

Again, note there are today Numerous variations in the additives used to make Nylon and this makes for a massive variety in textures, flexibility and MELTING TEMPERATURES. What your discussing is the original Dupont product of many, many years ago. Today some Nylon products withstand tremendous temperatures both in hot and cold. Some stay extreamely flexible in cold temperatures too. For example many convertible autos have Nylon Tops. One of mine does and it looks like new although over 40 years old. Nylon is also used in many products for gears, window rollers, handles in the automotive world. Nylon has many, many different usages and also many different temperature statistics.
As to scratching a coin. There are Nylon products as soft as cotton too. So this is not a yes or no answer.
However, for the cost of a manufactured 2x2 almost anywhere, I can't see wasting my time or anyone's time attemting to make them. And remember you do not have to staple them closed. A simple clear tape will do that with no adverse effects.
Although that is just an opinion since there are people that actually build entire autos for something to do or a hobby. So why not a 2x2?

 

I to will look forward to the result:hail:

 

Took me a couple of days but got the pix. Hope they are clear enough. Nylon tubing heat sealed. Pix taken on brown counter top which as you can see gave it a brown hue. Coin is Bu so don't say it's tarnishing or something like that. I

 

You need to make the picture smaller (storage size wise) so we can see it. This site automatically minimizes pictures >250KB to icon size pictures. Alternatively, post it on photobucket and a link here

 

how do you do process of picture downloading?

 

You did the process right, but with the wrong picture. In order for you to download the picture directly as you did, the maximum size MUST be 250KB. If there is some reason you cannot downsize your picture, use photobucket or some similar picture.

Read this and the next few posts http://www.cointalk.com/t73435/#post708142. Also read http://www.cointalk.com/t8565/