at what point, or percentage of clip does the incomplete planchet become described as struck on "scrap" @paddyman98 ,@Fred Weinberg
There is a big difference. A clipped planchet is incorrect. The planchet itself was never actually clipped at anytime. This is why the proper terminology should be an Incomplete Planchet. Struck on Scrap is just that. A piece of Copper fragment that somehow found its way into the striking chamber and got struck. An Incomplete Planchet is not a fragment or there is no percentage amount for it to be considered a fragment.
i know that, but title would not of fit, first pic is advertised as a clip, second one as scrap, how much of a coin has not to be there before it is no longer considered an incomplete planchet and rather a "scrap" can a 90% clip still be called a clip (as dealers call them for convenience sake)...or if 95% of the coin has been eliminated from the planchet, what i am asking is at what percentage of coin not being there does it not be an incomplete planchet, rather a struck on scrap?
This is my criteria. It may not be a standard numismatic definition, and others may not agree, but it makes sense to me It's an incomplete planchet if the piece has been punched from the rolled strip by the blanking punch. It's scrap if it's something else (random fragment, pieces that fall off a detective strip, etc). Size shouldn't matter, it should be based on how the planchet/scrap was formed, IMO. I understand there still may be some gray areas, but I think this works for most scenarios.
by the way, the reason i was asking is scrap ones go for 300 and up whilst clips (incomplete planchets) go for considerably less....i found a 45% clip and was wondering if a good deal for 35.00 still thinking on it for now..
just found an 80% clip on ha newest auction, cannot post the pic, but here is the link:.... https://coins.ha.com/itm/errors/197...em-BrowseTabs-Auction-Open-ThisAuction-120115