2021-W ASE Flying Eagle

Discussion in 'Bullion Investing' started by Phil Ham, Jul 31, 2021.

  1. Garlicus

    Garlicus Debt is dumb, cash is king.

    It sounds like you’re getting a bullion coin, which doesn’t have a mint mark.

    If you look at the OP’s picture of the reverse, you will see the W mint mark on the right side, under the wing. Previous issues had the mint mark on the reverse, as well.
     
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  3. Gilbert

    Gilbert Part time collector Supporter

    At first I didn’t like the new design, but seeing it in hand think it’s not so bad.
     
  4. fretboard

    fretboard Defender of Old Coinage!

    I like it alright but the old one wasn't broken so there wasn't a reason to try and fix it and they didn't fix it anyways, they just made it different. :D Will I buy one, I may, idk yet! :cigar:
     
  5. CygnusCC

    CygnusCC Roping the Learns Supporter

    I have a newbie question - for anybody really, not just you Garlicus. It's just that your explanation got me wondering. When is a .999 silver coin considered bullion and when is it just a coin? Are proofs not referred to as bullion coins? Or is it just that legal tender coins aren't referred to as bullion?

    Or is it just referring to what you intend to use the coin for?

    I'm a little confused :confused:
     
  6. Inspector43

    Inspector43 More than 75 Years Active Collecting Supporter

    This is the way they used to ship the Uncirculated Clad Half Dollars. I would think a one ounce proof silver would get more respect. This is my last year so I am not too concerned about further decline in quality.
     
  7. Garlicus

    Garlicus Debt is dumb, cash is king.

    They are both ‘coins’, in that they are both legal tender and carry a denomination, $1.
    Collector’s versions, burnished and proofs, have a mint mark, and less are produced, usually 300k or less, while the ‘bullion’ version does not bear a mint mark and millions are produced.
     
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  8. daniel a DiBiasio

    daniel a DiBiasio Well-Known Member

    Ilike both the old and new designs.
     
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  9. Jim Dale

    Jim Dale Well-Known Member

    Am I a glutton? I ended up with 4 ASE-W, Type 2 coins. I don't really want or need all of them, but I am not sure how I want to handle them. I know my son (who is going to be 50 in October) doesn't need one. He owns a house in Georgia and 2 beach homes in Florida that he rents out as well as 3 daughters in college. I think I'm going to send one to my brother. Oh well! It's nice to have a problem like that.
     
  10. Jim Dale

    Jim Dale Well-Known Member

    Oh, by the way, I don't know if anyone else mentioned this, but what is a flying ASE?
     
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  11. crazyd

    crazyd Well-Known Member

    Eagle landing ?[​IMG]
     
  12. LA_Geezer

    LA_Geezer Well-Known Member

    Correct. The only proof coins I have came as lagniappes with other purchases. I think I have three, two Lincoln cents and a Jefferson nickel. I could not tell you what the dates on them are, but if dealers are willing to give them away as bonuses, they must not be worth more than face.
     
  13. LA_Geezer

    LA_Geezer Well-Known Member

    That would be my guess too.
     
  14. Mike Thornton

    Mike Thornton Learning something new everyday.

    Not sure if your joking or not, but the mint mark, if it is a "W" is on the reverse under the eagles left wing.
     
  15. Mike Thornton

    Mike Thornton Learning something new everyday.

    As Garlicus has explained, the bullion coins are sold in Monster Boxes of 500 coins, I would add to only a handful of "designated buyers (distributors really) who then turn and resell them to collectors at a markup. You and I like most everyone else cannot buy these directly from the Mint.
     
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  16. CygnusCC

    CygnusCC Roping the Learns Supporter

    Thanks for the explanation guys. So basically I could boil this down to: bullion are coins (or objects?) so common that their worth is from their PM weight rather than for any historic, unique, numismatic etc. properties. Valid?
     
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  17. Garlicus

    Garlicus Debt is dumb, cash is king.

    Correct, although there are some older bars, like Johnson Matthey, and coins, QueensBeast series, that may carry a premium.
     
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  18. Jim Dale

    Jim Dale Well-Known Member

    Thanks for the clarification. The only "Flying Eagles" that came "off the top of my Head" was the 1856,1957, and the 1858. Can we give it another name, i.e. "Eagle Attack" or "Here's Johnnie!" Enough with the jokes. I like the old reverse side of the American Eagle, but I do like the new "Eagle Attack". I must have. I bought 6 of them and 2 Type 1, but don't tell my wife.
     
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  19. Garlicus

    Garlicus Debt is dumb, cash is king.

    The old reverse was ok, but after 35 years, it was time for a change. Most of the counterfeits were missing an something that made it easy for me to spot them, not I have to see if there is something easy to detect on the new ones.
     
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  20. green18

    green18 Unknown member Sweet on Commemorative Coins

    Don't wanna go there......more like a flying...........________
     
  21. CygnusCC

    CygnusCC Roping the Learns Supporter

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