Question on Archival Quality Vinyl Flips vs Museum Quality Flips

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by Chris Winkler, Jul 12, 2021.

  1. Publius2

    Publius2 Well-Known Member

    Yeah, that was my suggestion. But, after some further thought, you could do the same thing with heavy artist's paper/cardstock. I buy mine at Michael's, JoAnne's, and HobbyLobby. It is acid-free and heavier than paper but not as heavy as cardstock. You can cut it to 2x2 size and use between the coin-holding 2x2s.

    You can also can acid-free cardstocks and heavier materials anywhere that sells picture framing materials if you want a heavier material.
     
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  3. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Yes !
     
  4. Chris Winkler

    Chris Winkler Well-Known Member

    Maybe putting 1/2 a flip inbetween 2x2 cardboard would stop the problem of black spots due to pinholes?

    I started this thread to talk about long term storage in flips, and GDJMSP mentioned carboard, and that is when i said i got rid of them due to pinholes that somehow, more than likely from staples snagging it putting in the boxes made black spots on a dozen coins.

    I now feel they are like lepers, and no one wants to go near them!
     
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    See how many you see at a coin show.
     
  6. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Chris, you have to understand something. Flips of any kind and every kind, cardboard 2x2s, coin folders, coin albums, coin tubes, small manila envelopes, each and every one of those things has its own set of problems. Each and every one of those things can and will harm the coins in one way or another. There are no exceptions.

    The one and only thing that allows a collector to protect his coins as best he can is by using an individual hard plastic coin holder made of inert materials for each coin, and couple that with proper storage methods. Now you can weigh the cost of doing this against all the other methods, but this method has no downside and all the other methods do.

    You also have to understand that the black spots you're talking about can be caused by several different things. Yeah, pinholes in mylar or flips can cause them, but so can cardboard dust. So can tiny little particles of any organic material, and so can tiny droplets of saliva that are produced just by you breathing as you work with your coins, let alone a sneeze or a cough. Any and all of those things can cause black spots to develop on coins. And you also have to understand that any or all of those things could have been deposited on the coins before you ever got the coins !

    Now there's way's you can deal with all of it and prevent the black spots, but it tales some time and it requires some knowledge. And it also requires some additional expense, not a lot really but there is some.

    I guess the point I'm trying to get across is that proper coin storage isn't simple as a lot of collectors seem to think it is. It's complicated and there are a lot of steps that have to be taken, and some that have to be repeatedly taken basically forever.

    Collectors can choose to do these things or not do these things, it's all up to you. It all depends on what you want, what you are willing to do or not do. But in the end, even with the cost of everything combined, you're still at about $1 a coin. You can spend more than that if you want to buy more expensive holders, but you can do it for about a $1 a coin if you wish.
     
  7. Scott J

    Scott J Well-Known Member

    What do you guys think of this system? You can get pages for other types of holders as well.
    Just not sure of the cover material???
    Thoughts? Thanks. SmartSelect_20210720-131615_Chrome.jpg
     
  8. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    It's pretty simple. First, what is leatherette? It's a synthetic surface, usually made of vinyl or a type of plastic that is meant to simulate the look and feel of leather.

    Short and sweet - bad idea ! That vinyl contains the same PVC softening agents that PVC flips contain, only you've got a mountain of it. You want that on your coins ?
     
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