A Cut Above (You'll Understand When You Read It)

Come on @furryfrog02 : It is a good thing to volunteer ... and also deliver ... but please dress the kids lighter ... or they will die of heat!

 

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If only...My wife has been dying to visit Italy since before we were married! I was lucky enough to deploy to Naples for 6 weeks in 2004. I was really busy so I didn’t make it past Pompeii...but wow that was amazing!

 

That picture reminds me of one of my very favorite trips ever: when I went to Rome with my son as his high school graduation present. Here he is with the Colosseum in the background:



And now, years later, he's an Art History PhD student. I couldn't be more proud. I haven't seen him for more than five months -- the longest time ever in his life -- but he'll be home soon.

 

Sweet memories.
We visited the colosseum in 1965!
Where did the years go?

 

I concur with furryfrog02 that the local food bank could use some extra help. When this all started back in March I had to pick up some meds at the local Safeway pharmacy. I then picked up a couple of items from the store and went to the check out. There was only one active and the guy in front of me had like a whole shopping cart full of groceries. Sometimes if I am lucky somebody with a lot of stuff will let me ahead of him. He didn't and later I was thankful that he didn't. Our Safeway prepares some pre filled bags of food for the food bank that are ready for purchase. He actually bought a couple. That was the catalyst for me to do the same. Since then I try to do it at least once a month. PS I think your Athenian owl is one of the mass coin issues 454-404 BC and is a Flament group II. possibly a II.45 Obverse. Reverse I am not certain.

 

I have never seen Flament. Can someone who has it do a short review? I'm failing to understand how a coin this late could be numbered "Group II" (or are there only four groups lumping things together coarsely?).

 

@dougsmit, according to Reid Goldsborough, "Flament divided Mass Owls into three groups, c. 460-440 BC, c. 440-420 BC, and c. 420-404 BC, based on style, not die, analysis." See https://rg.ancients.info/owls/. But there are many subgroups, so the classification definitely gets very specific. See this post by @Terence Cheesman some months ago, kindly identifying the Flament subgroups (differing for the obverse and reverse) to which my own Owl coin, and @robinjojo's, belong:

"Robinjojo coin looks to me to be a Flament group II most likely a II.4 obverse and a II b reverse. Donna ML is also a Group II Most likely a Flament Group II. 40. Hers has a rather unusual arrangement of the palmet as well as the narrow eye of that group. The reverse is a bit more of a problem but it looks like a II q My last coin is this one. It has a Group III obverse and is likely done by the same hand as the Group III coin I had posted above But it has a Group II reverse."

https://www.cointalk.com/threads/in-search-of-a-starr-group-v-owl.359796/page-3#post-4506311

 

Great gift, great story, and great photos! The "Boy and his Owl" portrait is a classic, as is the one with the two young community helpers. On the other hand, I think those elves are looking a tad bit naughty. If we end up seeing replicas of FFIVN's coin in multiple stockings next year, it'll be pretty easy to figure out what transpired at the elf factory...

 

Lovely kids, and you're a great parent Its good to see that FFIVN recovered from chirurgy!

 

Thank you very much. All I knew about his work was the image below that suggests he covered all owls rather than just the mass group.

 

Perhaps he covered the others but didn't divide them into so many groups and subgroups? After all, the earlier Owls, before the Mass Owls, are, I believe, already covered by the Starr Groups.

 

Honeymoon, 1983, My wife's lineage from Arce, Lazio, Italy, south of Rome and Venice. Fantastic time and adventure.

 

ff02, I'm glad to hear FFIVN made it through the appendectomy OK ! What a cute photo of the kid proudly holding his ancient treasure . I went through the same ordeal when I was 12 years old & still sport a scar about 4 in. long from that experience . My appendix ruptured resulting in a 3 day hospital stay . Enjoy your holidays & stay safe .

 

Nice to see FFIVN so proud and happy with his athenian owl !
That's a tremendous present he got. CT is really a great group of people

Q