Can these Morgan Dollars be Real? Every coin in MS UNC???? Fake?

I don't know, but these are on eBay right now. Link below. I am not bidding, only watching. This seller has 13 Morgans for sale now, all of them are nearly flawless and all in some strange holders that I've not seen before. Looks too good to be true to me. If these are legit, I'm sure sorry to be critical of them, but I smell a rat when there are so many similarities in grade, photos, etc. What do you guys think? If I'm correct and these are fake, how to we stop these from getting into our marketplace?

1878 Morgan Dollar - 7/8 TF Tailfeathers - BU MS UNC GEM - Nice Silver Coin! | eBay

 

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They are authentic but heavily polished (or whizzed).

Notice how every one of his pics is taken in a certain position so that the lighting makes it harder to see the problem.

The fact that he doesn't accept returns is already warning enough.

 

Enough said.

 

Thanks guys, I appreciate the insight that you've shared.

 

I googled Numismatic Grading Association. Not a hit. Couldn't even get any contact information.

 

Coins are genuine cleaned junk. Stay far away for over melt

 

If a coin isn't in a slab from NGC, PCGS, ANACS, or ICG, you should be highly suspect of the assigned grade. That coin is graded by a service, which many would consider a classic example of a self-slabber. The best comparison is arguably the phenomenon known as "catfishing" instead of pretending to be someone else online; most sellers attempt to deceptively pass the coin off as a high-grade specimen. When in reality, the coin is often circulated or a problem coin.

https://coinauctionshelp.com/AACGS.html

 

If you want to learn about what junk morgans look like search morgandealer on eBay. This guy has every available example of what a junk Morgan looks like. And don't ever bid on any of them. No matter how they look

 

Just my opinion now folks: If I buy silver I buy PCGS and if I buy gold it's NGC.
There are dozens of 'Self Slabbers' out there all trying to get your money.

 

That's a FrankenMorgan. Just look at what's going on in the neck area on the obverse and at 9 o'clock on the reverse. Oh, my!

 

Just noted that this cleaned, self-slabbed, Morgan sold for $256.11 and had 42 bids! Yes, I see now the neck area and the rough surface at 9 o'clock. Uggh.... Thank you everyone for your kind thoughts on these cleaned Morgans. I just learned a lot from all of you. Very grateful....

 

That's a strong clash. VAM 41C. Still worth nowhere near what it seems to have sold for.

 

Thanks for posting the coin issue.

 

junk silver melt is all

 

And "how?" you may ask can we afford to sell at such a discount rate. Volume, my friend, we deal in volume. So come on down today to Morgan's Discount Coins, on the corner of Here and Over There. Get your bargain today, and oh what a bargain. And remember our motto! "just look the other way"!

 

When I saw "MS UNC" in the title I was pretty sure the seller didn't know coins. Then a look at the coin said cleaned.
And finally the TPG(!) screamed fake.

 

some things i heard from my dad growing up
* when you see something that seems to good to be true it probably is
* go with your gut
* if a seller does not accept returns - stay away
all 3 are very good advice

 

Heavily cleaned, and total junk. P.T. Barnum coins. Feed them to the smelter. They are silver, so melt those suckers.

 

42 bids for a coin worth melt ?

OMG.....wonder how many unique bidders from the 42.