Licinius is staring at me

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  1. OutsiderSubtype

    OutsiderSubtype Well-Known Member

    I have two coins of Licinius from Alexandria and on both he has a rather intense gaze.

    Here is a follis from early in his reign, 308 to 312.

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    Licinius I. Circa 308-312 CE. AE Follis. 26mm, 5.91g. Alexandria mint, fifth officina. Obverse: IMP C VAL LIC LICINIVS P F AVG, laureate head right. Reverse: GENIO IMPERATORIS, Genius standing left, nude but for chlamys over shoulders and left arm, holding patera and cornucopia. K in left field, Ε over P in right field. ALE in exergue. RIC VI Alexandria 101b.

    Here is a radiate from later in his reign, 321 to 324.

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    Licinius I. Circa 321-324 CE. AE3. 20mm, 2.6g. Alexandria mint, second officina. Obverse: IMP C VAL LICIN LICINIVS P F AVG, radiate, draped, and cuirassed bust right. Reverse: IOVI CONSERVATORI, Jupiter standing left, holding Victory on globe and scepter. Eagle with wreath to the left on the ground. Captive to the right. In right field, X over II and a half (signifying 12.5). SMALB in exergue.

    I mean, just look at his eyeball!

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  3. Roman Collector

    Roman Collector Well-Known Member

    That's what you call the side eye! :eek: Here's one of mine from the Antioch mint:

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    Licinius I, AD 308-324.
    Roman billon follis, 3.43 g, 19.1 mm, 11 h.
    Antioch, sixth officina, AD 321-323.
    Obv: IMP C VAL LICIN LICINIVS P F AVG, radiate, draped and cuirassed bust, right.
    Rev: IOVI CONSERVATORI, Jupiter standing left, holding Victory on globe and eagle-tipped scepter, another eagle to feet to left, captive seated on ground to right; X/IIΓ in field, right; SMANTS in exergue.
    Refs: RIC vii, p. 682, 35; Cohen 74; RCV 15225.
     
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  4. gsimonel

    gsimonel Well-Known Member

    Compare your second coin with the two coins at the top of this post about Martinian, which are supposedly from Cyzicus. The stylistic similarities are disconcerting.
    Martinian w/ Unusual Portrait
     
  5. ancient coin hunter

    ancient coin hunter 3rd Century Usurper

    Here's a Licinius from Rome.

    Here's a helmeted/cuirassed Licinius.

    AE3, 318-319 AD. 19mm 3.1 grams

    IMP LI-CINIVS AVG, helmeted and cuirassed bust right

    ROMAE AETERNAE, Roma seated right, shield on lap inscribed X/V. P-R across fields.

    Mintmark: RQ

    Reference: RIC VII Rome 151; Cohen 150; Sear 15354.

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  6. Clavdivs

    Clavdivs Well-Known Member

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    OBV: IMP C VAL LICIN LICINIVS P F AVG, Radiate bust, right
    REV: IOVI CONSERVATORI, Jupiter standing left, holding Victory on globe and eagle-tipped sceptre, eagle at feet to right, sitting captive to right.
    X IIΓ in the right field
    Mintmark SMAL followed by officina A (1) in exerge
    Alexandria 318-324AD


    Licinius' coins displayed a wide variety of portraiture .. to say the least.

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  8. Spaniard

    Spaniard Well-Known Member

    Here's an eye from Siscia...
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    Licinius I AE Follis. 20mm dia/ 3.2gr
    Obverse- IMP LIC LICINIVS PF AVG, laureate head right
    Reverse- IOVI CON-SERVATORI, Jupiter standing left, holding victory and sceptre, eagle at foot with wreath in its beak,gamma to right.
    Mintmark SIS. RIC VII 8G (Siscia oficina3)
     
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  10. Roerbakmix

    Roerbakmix Well-Known Member

    I like it when my coins stare at me, though it's surprisingly uncommon to find them. For medieval, it's easier:

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    SERBIA, Stefan Uroš II. Denomination: AR Grosso, minted: Serbia; 1282-1321
    Obv: Christ, enthroned
    Rev: VROSIVS REX S STEFAN
    Weight: 1.73g; Ø:20mm. Catalogue: Jovanovic 7. 7. . Provenance: Ex private collection; acq.: 05-2019
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    ... kinda creepy ...

    [11128] Diederik van der Ahr - Utrecht, the Netherlands (AR penny, 1197-1212).jpg
    BISHOPS OF UTRECHT, Diederik van der Ahr. Denomination: AR Penny, minted: Utrecht, the Netherlands; 1197-1212
    Obv: TЄODЄ - RICVS, facing bust of Diederik van der Ahr in episcopal regalia; crozier to left.
    Rev: +TRAIECTVM, cross pattée; in opposite quarters, pellet-in-annulet and trident with annulet ends .
    Weight: 0.58g; Ø:14mm. Catalogue: van der Chijs VI, 2 ,de Mey 159, de Wit Collection 878. Provenance: Ex. private collection; acq.: 02-2020
    An interesting and scarce type.
     

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  11. OutsiderSubtype

    OutsiderSubtype Well-Known Member

    Yes, that does look very similar to mine. I guess you would expect Martinian to look similar to Licinius considering the circumstances of his "reign".

    My bug-eyed radiate was sold to me by @Victor_Clark for $10.

    That Martinian is on sale on vcoins for 3500 euros.

    Such is the difference caused by a few words in the obverse legend and the short and doomed nature of Martinian's career I guess.

    Personally, I don't have $3500 for a coin, and if I did, I would want expert opinions before buying that one!
     
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