I found these two Cumberland Islands quarters about 2 weeks apart. The first one was the smaller rim cud and the larger one was today. I am assuming these are a progression of the same rim cud. What do you all think?
Unless you can find a marker on both that would link them to the same die, the fact that they are part of a progression is only speculation. What is that mark along the rim to the right of the mintmark on the second photo? ~ Chris
@paddyman98 would the first be considered a finned rim, instead of a cud because it hadn't enveloped fully?
As I look at both Quarters they also seem like slightly Misaligned Die strikes. The side in question would cause some finning.
These aren’t finned. The larger one is listed on cuds-on-coins as CU-25c-2018P-01(CI) Rim Cud http://cuds-on-coins.com/washington-quarter-cuds-state-terr-2/
The angle of strike would surely cause this collar to break. Until further evidence . I would call them note worthy . @furryfrog02 can you find any other die markers? There is a finned rim that extends in the same direction towards 6 that is enveloped by your second example. . Can you confirm that they are the same dies?
Here are a few more photos. Sorry I can’t do much better right now. My daughter knocked over my laptop and the charger plug broke. On just my phone until the new one comes. The only similarities I could find is a die crack along George’s neck
If it is on the die, then it would have to show up on the coin with the smaller cud, but it doesn't. This makes me think that the cuds are on two separate dies. ~ Chris
Since it is on the larger cud and not the smaller one, I was thinking it perhaps happened as the die broke further. Totally just a guess though.
Upon further review, (forgive the football axiom) IMO, it is possible that the coins could have been struck from the same die. The longer cud on one coin extends beyond the location of the shorter cud both clockwise and counterclockwise. Furthermore, the longer cud is wider, so this cud could have resulted from a later die state. It is also possible that the two coins were struck from different dies. A close check of other markers on the coins, particularly those which show up on both coins in the same location on the obverse , could resolve the issue. I haven’t checked the ‘cud site’, but that could give clues. Dan