To star or not to star - official game thread

Unfortunately, the big spot on the obverse rules out a Star.

I think it is an extremely attractive coin, but I don't think it has quite the "pop" they're looking for for a star.

(A star may be warranted, however, if that reverse is truly as strongly CAM as the pictures show, but the obverse isn't strong enough for CAM).

 

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I completely agree with Physics. The spot caught my eye immediately. The coin is still very attractive for the grade.

 

bumping this for the night crowd ...

 

I only know tough crowds.

 

I'll let this one go until tomorrow....

 

No star.

 

Here's a question for all of you. I've noticed that there are many proof Franklin halves with the NGC star designation. From what I can tell by looking at non Cameo proofs with a star, the obverse looks cameo but the reverse doesn't. Also, Cameo Franklins with a star usually look close to Ultra Cameo; again, maybe the reverse keeps it from being UC. Is this a reasonable assumption?

 

Yes, exactly. A Proof with a Star is often because one side meets a Cam or Ucam, but the other side doesn't. Per Mark Salzberg, that's usually going to be the obverse.

 

Here is a quick summary that I posted in a thread (linked below) based on what I found on the NGC website:

In the simplest terms:
"NGC assigns its trademarked Star Designation to coins with exceptional eye appeal for their assigned grade"

This "exceptional eye appeal" usually breaks down into three major categories.
1. Toning (vibrant, colorful, etc)...can be very subjective
2. Intense luster or Proof-like qualities for business strikes (this includes coins that are proof-like on only one side or a coin already graded PL that is DMPL on the other side)
3. Cameo contrast for proof coins (this will usually mean coins that are cameo on only one side or a coin already designated as CAM that is DCAM on the other side)

https://www.cointalk.com/threads/post-your-ngc-stars-and-a-little-history.308504/

 

Thanks physics-fanPI and ddddd for the quick reply. I'm glad my assumptions were correct. A failing mind needs reaffirmation now and then.

 

Almost no chance that gets a star despite how attractive it is.

 

No Star

 

Summary:
Rd. 1: 1955-S MS 64 1c (NO Star) --> Should it star? -->Yes: 2 vs No: 11

Rd. 2: 1885-O MS 65 $1 (NO Star) —>Should it star? —> Yes: 4 vs No: 3

Rd. 3: 1813 50c (NO Star) —>Should it star? —> Yes: 2 vs No: 9

Rd. 4: 1835 50c (Star) —>Should it star? —> Yes: 1 vs No: 4

Rd. 5: 1821 50c (Star) —>Should it star? —> Yes: 2 vs No: 4

Rd. 6: 1947-D 5c (NO Star) —>Should it star? —> Yes: 6 vs No: 2

Rd. 7: 1882-S $1 MS 63 (Star) —>Should it star? —> Yes: 0 vs No: 8

Rd. 8: 1882-S $1 MS 67 (NO Star) —>Should it star? —> Yes: 2 vs No: 8

Rd. 9: Darth Morgan (NO Star) —>Should it star? —> Yes: 1 vs No: 5

Rd. 10: 1820 Cent (NO Star) —>Should it star? —> Yes: 2 vs No: 5

Rd. 11: Swiss Silver (NO Star) —>Should it star? —> Yes: 1 vs No: 4

Rd. 12: 1940 50c (Star) —>Should it star? —> Yes: 4 vs No: 3

Rd. 13: Israel Lira (NO Star*^) —>Should it star? —> Yes: 4 vs No: 0

Rd. 14: 1937-D 5c (Star) —>Should it star? —> Yes:2 vs No: 0

Rd. 15: 1885 Morgan (No Star) —>Should it star? —> Yes:0 vs No: 12

Rd. 16: 1958-D Franklin (Star) —>Should it star? —> Yes:0 vs No: 7

Rd. 17: 1958-D Franklin #2 (No Star) —>Should it star? —> Yes:1 vs No: 6

Rd. 18: 1958-D Franklin #3 (Star) —>Should it star? —> Yes:5 vs No: 2

Rd. 19: 1881-S Morgan (No Star) —>Should it star? —> Yes:4 vs No: 3

Rd. 20: 1884-O Morgan (Star) —>Should it star? —> Yes:5 vs No: 2

Rd. 21: 1874 PF Trade Dollar (No Star) —>Should it star? —> Yes:1 vs No: 6

Rd. 22: 1964 Kennedy (Star) —>Should it star? —> Yes:1 vs No: 7

Rd. 23: 1958-D Franklin (No Star) —>Should it star? —> Yes:6 vs No: 3

Rd. 24: San Diego Commem (Star) —>Should it star? —> Yes:1 vs No: 5

Rd. 25: 1886 $1 (Star) —> Should it star? —> Yes: 7 vs No: 0

Rd. 26: 1887 $1 (No Star) —> Should it star? —> Yes: 0 vs No: 7

Rd. 27: 1880-S $1 (Star) —> Should it star? —> Yes: 4 vs No: 3

Rd. 28: 1963 PF 5c (No Star) —> Should it star? —> Yes: 5 vs No: 0

Rd. 29: 1968 PF 50c (No Star) —> Should it star? —> Yes: 1 vs No: 5

Rd. 30: 1880-S $1 (Star) —> Should it star? —> Yes: 0 vs No: 6

Rd. 31: 1880-S $1 (Star) —> Should it star? —> Yes: 2 vs No: 3

Rd. 32: 1886 $1 (No Star) —> Should it star? —> Yes: 2 vs No: 5

Rd. 33: 1882-S $1 (Star)—> Should it star? —> Yes: 4 vs No: 6

Rd. 34: 1887 $1 (Star) —> Should it star? —> Yes: 1 vs No: 6

Rd. 35: 1900 India Rupee (No Star) —> Should it star? —> Yes: 5 vs No: 3

Rd. 36: 1880-S $1 (Star)—> Should it star? —> Yes: 8 vs No: 0

Rd. 37: 1918 Lincoln 50c (Star)—> Should it star? —> Yes: 1 vs No: 8

Rd. 38: 1886 Morgan MS 65 (No Star)—> Should it star? —> Yes: 2 vs No: 7

Rd. 39: 1884-O Morgan MS 65 (Star)—> Should it star? —> Yes: 1 vs No: 8

Rd. 40: Ireland 1/2D PR 63 (PCGS coin)—> Should it star? —> Yes: 2 vs No: 5

Totals:
No Star currently on holder, but deserves it: 7
No Star currently on holder and doesn't deserve it: 13
Star currently on holder and deserves it: 7
Star currently on holder, but doesn't deserve it: 12
PCGS holder, but deserves it upon crossover: 0
PCGS holder and doesn't deserve it upon crossover: 1

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Non-toned/PL category:
~ 1871 5c (Star) —>Should it star? —> Yes: 5 vs No: 1
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*^ = signifies a coin that was most likely graded before the star designation was used for its respective series

 

Next up is another world item, this time a Swiss Silver Medal

 

Oh yeah it deserves a star. That’s the kind of eye appeal I love. Though I’d grade it au 58 with the slight hi point rub

 

yes

 

If it wasn't for the surfaces I would say no, Star worthy.

 

Star

 

It deserves a star.

 

I'd have to see the luster - if the luster is there, no question it gets a star. If the luster isn't all there, probably no star.