The Toning Premium Thread Part 2

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  1. Johndoe2000$

    Johndoe2000$ Well-Known Member

    It's so hard for me to grade heavily toned coins.
     
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  3. EyeAppealingCoins

    EyeAppealingCoins Well-Known Member

    It is hard to tell without seeing it in hand. Color can hide a lot on a coin like that especially in photos. Luster also makes a big difference. Your coin has a mushy strike, but this issue is known for weaker strikes even in higher grades. If you ever sold it, a True View might help, and it isn't that much more for an economy regrade if you have several other coins going in.
     
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  4. Johndoe2000$

    Johndoe2000$ Well-Known Member

    Unfortunately not my coin.
     
  5. Johndoe2000$

    Johndoe2000$ Well-Known Member

    Floor is open...
     
  6. ddddd

    ddddd Member

    Ok, let's try a three part exercise.
    1. Which coin sold for more?
    2. Guess the price of (a)...guide around $35-$45
    3. Guess the price of (b)...guide around $55-$70
    Winner will be the one who gets the most parts right; in the case of a tie, whoever is closest to the price of (a) wins the point...if two people are still tied, then we will used tiebreaker #2

    Also feel free to comment on which one you like more.

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    (tiebreaker #2) did (a), (b), both, or neither sell for more than the following:
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  7. Lehigh96

    Lehigh96 Toning Enthusiast

    1). A sold for more
    2). $225
    3). $200

    The toning on A is far superior but the obverse is atrocious and I would never want to own that coin. The obverse of B is cleaner but still rather generic, and I’m not completely convinced that the toning is original. I wouldn’t want to own either of these two coins.
     
  8. ddddd

    ddddd Member

    (a) reminded me of a coin I used to own
    ....as another potential tiebreaker, everyone can guess if (a), (b), both, or neither sold for more than the following:

    Post #12 here:
    https://www.cointalk.com/threads/post-your-ngc-stars-and-a-little-history.308504/

    (1884-CC Morgan)...I added it to the original post
     
  9. ddddd

    ddddd Member

    Anyone else?
     
  10. Johndoe2000$

    Johndoe2000$ Well-Known Member

    A sold for more.
    1-$375
    2-$338
    The cc was highest.
     
  11. kSigSteve

    kSigSteve Active Member

    I disagree and think B sold for more.

    A sold for $250
    B sold for $275

    The CC sold for the most at $310
     
  12. Duke Kavanaugh

    Duke Kavanaugh The Big Coin Hunter

    1. b
    2. a =400
    b =500
    3. 575
     
  13. ddddd

    ddddd Member

    The answers...
    1. (b) sold for more
    2. (a) went for 376.88
    3. (b) went for 472.50
    4. the tiebreaker coin went for $440 (in 2016); so right between the two sales from this last weekend ....when I bought the CC in 2016, I thought I overpaid (I liked the coin though so I was willing to go a bit high....I did eventually sell it for around break-even when I found something I liked better)

    And I continue to be surprised by some of the toned results at GC; I liked (a) but to me it was crazy money for a reverse toned MS 62..... (b) was even more confusing; it was a 64 with CAC, but I didn't see anything too special.
     
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  14. ddddd

    ddddd Member

    @Duke Kavanaugh takes the round by being closest on two of the three answers (tiebreaker was not needed).

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  15. Duke Kavanaugh

    Duke Kavanaugh The Big Coin Hunter

    off from a long dry spell of winning....

    Floor is open please post some color for me.
     
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    Duke Kavanaugh The Big Coin Hunter

  17. ddddd

    ddddd Member

    Let's try this one...1885-O MS 67 examples have ranged from $600-$900 lately on eBay. What did this one sell for recently (I used the photo from the auction and I didn't win it)?

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  18. kSigSteve

    kSigSteve Active Member

    Seems kind of baggy for a 67. I’ll go $1,155.
     
  19. ddddd

    ddddd Member

    I agree that it looks baggier than what I like to see in a 67 and that was part of the reason I didn't really bid (I placed a small bid just to track it). This is one of those that has likely stayed in the old holder because it was maxed out back then and is still maxed out today.
     
  20. Lehigh96

    Lehigh96 Toning Enthusiast

    $1350

    I’m saying this coin performed well because the reverse toning pattern mimics “cat’s eye” toning which is highly sought after by toning enthusiasts. I agree that it is overgraded if you just look at surface preservation. I’d rather see this coin in an MS66* holder.
     
  21. Johndoe2000$

    Johndoe2000$ Well-Known Member

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