Value of 2012 1oz gold libertad pcgs70

In Sept 2013 I bought a 1oz gold Libertad pcgs70 for $1546.00.
I believe it was advertised as one of a population of 53 or 56.
Where can I find the current value of this coin?
Google has not returned any useful results.

 

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However, most likely just melt
Today's gold, one ounce:
Gold $1351.90/oz 5.00

 

Dont be fooled, friends dont let friends buy graded bullion, most
Of the time its a big loser ! since most government issue gold
Coins are gem anyway why pay the ridiculous premiums for
A perfect coin, bullion is bullion regardless of condition or
Population for that matter, dont mean to rain on your parade.

 

Buying graded gold or silver is a good thing to do, IF you can get it for about the same price as an ungraded coin. Having it graded/slabbed helps when it comes time to sell, as it gives it a layer of authenticity.

As an example, for my nephew’s HS graduation a couple of years ago, I got him an MS70 1/10 Gold Eagle (with a free ASE for me ) for $165 or $170. That was maybe $5-$10 more than if I bought them raw. The holder protects the coin for him, helps him keep from losing it, since the slab is a good size, it may appreciate, and the next buyer has more assurance that it is genuine.

 

Looking at listings on eBay, it appears to at least held that value, if not increased some.
That population number is for some type of ‘collection’, or whatever, not a mintage number.

 

I didn't check ebay, I believe it's a proof coin PCGS70
It's in my SDBx. I'm trying to get existing values
for my coins.

Thanks

 

You can see the most recent population numbers here:
https://www.pcgs.com/pop/detail/onza-1981-date/5428
(Near the top you can switch between MS and Proof, depending on what your Libertad is)

And here are mintage numbers:
http://donbailey-mexico.com/libertad_mintages.shtml


As far as I can tell, there were no proof 1 oz Gold Libertads made in 2012. So your example should be an MS 70. Libertads are popular and older years tend to trade for a premium, especially for the highest grades and low mintage years. There don’t appear to be any recent sales. All I found is one active NGC MS 70 listing with an asking price of $2,082. It’s hard to infer a value for yours, but I think you’d at least get your $1,546 back (not at a local coin store or a typical dealer, but if selling to a specialized dealer or a collector). I would guess for a quick sale, you’d have to price your coin lower than the NGC asking price, but maybe not as some may value the PCGS 70 above an NGC 70.

 

‘Easiest’ way to get a value, more or less, would be to go to the SDB, get the cert number, then plus it into PCGS’ verification system. You may then be able to see realized auction prices for those, too.

 

Here’s what they show for the 2013 regular strike, not proof (no proof sales showing). NGC prices can’t be correct.

 

Thanks so much for finding some of the coins on the PCGS site. I thought PCGS only tracked US coins. I didn't see 1oz 2012 DCAM PCGS70 coins. I see 2011 & 2013. It shows a population of 60 2012 PCGS70 coins. I remember my coin is one of 57. Wonder if it's DCAM.

I gotta get mine out of the SDBX and check it.

 

The reason you don’t see it is because there were no 2012 1 oz proof coins made. Please see that mintage table link from my earlier post.

Also, @Garlicus showed a good resource for finding some older sales (including non-eBay when available). The picture however shows sales for the 2013 issue. I looked at the 2012 and it unfortunately had no data. One should also be careful with those results as they sometimes pick up the wrong coins. Make sure to click on the prices, and you’ll usually see a picture or link for what the item was. For example, all the sales that were under $300 were fractional (1/20 and 1/10 oz) gold Libertads (obviously a gold 1 oz would never sell that low given where spot prices are).

 

Rusty,
I gotta disagree w/ you.
For example, some years ago, I bought a 1oz AGE MS70
Later that year I bought 1/10oz, 1/4oz & 1/2oz of the same coin graded MS69. Had I bought all MS70s the set would be worth more. 2011, 25 ASE Anniversary sets are/were worth significantly more if graded MS/PR70 vs lower grades or ungraded. I've got other examples but I'm not going to post based on the information on my spreadsheet. Gotta check the contents of my SDBXs.

 

Buying graded gold or silver is a good thing to do, IF you can get it for about the same price as an ungraded coin. Having it graded/slabbed helps when it comes time to sell, as it gives it a layer of authenticity.

I think you answered your own question, So if you can get it for the same
Price, how is the other guy that paid a huge premium for it plus grading
Fee,s going to make any money ?? So who is going to be stuck with
The premium being my question.

Remember everybody has to make money, from the guy that pulls it out of
The ground to the guys that pours it, and on down the line, as far as being
Authentic if you buy from a reputable dealer like JM Bullion this would not
Be a problem either as they guarente authenticity, and a nap cap
Holder like one of these work just fine, you dont need a fancy TPG
Here,s how i store my 1 OZ Gold Coins, simple and basic,

 

No worries agree to disagree..LOL, but you have to have people willing to
Take a risk, and hope they get there premium back, i have been in the game
For awhile and the differences from a gem coin and a 70 only a magnifying
Glass will give you that, and is it really worth it ? for me the answer is no.

 

I wanted to add one more comparison, as you can see by my avatar
I believe in TPG,S as 99% of my MPC collection which is over 500
Notes is graded but the big difference here is condition for example,
I will use a couple from my collection to kind of prove a point here













The first note as you can see is a 63 and has a value of about $350 however
The following note is a 66 and worth about $700, so roughly about double
It matters allot with paper money.

However with bullion coins 1 oz is worth 1 oz, it can be dropped from
The tallest building or come fresh from the mint, is there exceptions
Sure there are but as a general rule i think this for the most part
Holds true.

 

The night before I bought this coin there was a beautiful 2012 Libertad DCAM MS70 for not much more than I paid for the MS70. The following evening when I logged on to buy it it was gone.

Found a bunch of other interesting stuff in the SDBX that I had forgotten
about.

 

PCGS didn’t show any previous sales for that year, or list a value, but I think the ones I showed yesterday for the 2013 would be in line with a value for the 2012.

 

here's one example of a high grade influencing price.
I've been down this road so many times on Cointalk.
Some guys have a tough time accepting high grades
can positively influence the value of coins:
$1,399.95
https://shopcsntv.com/2011-25th-annv-silver-eagle-5-coin-set-ngc-70.html

$640.61
https://www.jmbullion.com/2011-american-silver-eagle-25-anniversary-5-coin-set/

 

I currently have that (raw) set listed in the for sale section at $565, including shipping, but no takers