error orientation penny 1931-D

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  1. gianni

    gianni Active Member

    Hi. I have penny Lincoln 1931-D AU58 i note the Orientation Coin alignment normal penny is H6 but this coin is H5.
    This error get plus value??? You know??? Tksss
     
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  3. paddyman98

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  4. gianni

    gianni Active Member

    Yes. Coin alignment obverse/reverse is normal rotate H6 (at 6:00 time) but this 1931-D is rotate obverse/reverse at H5 (at 5:00 time). You understand??? This is very error mint
     
  5. gianni

    gianni Active Member

    Normal coins is obverse Hr12:00 time and reverse is Hr6:00 time. This coin 1931-D is obv hr12:00 and rev hr5:00. When you rotate have effect disaligment!!! Hard error at mintmark Denver
     
  6. rickmp

    rickmp Frequently flatulent.

    Post photos. Both sides and another in a mirror so we can see both sides at the same time.
     
  7. cpm9ball

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    It sounds like you are describing a rotated die. Your description of "12:00/5:00" would mean that the rotation is about 15 degrees which is within US Mint tolerances. And, as a rule, collectors don't usually pay a premium for most rotations that are less than 90 degrees.

    Chris
     
  8. alurid

    alurid Well-Known Member

    :troll:. IMO
     
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  9. Kasia

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  10. gianni

    gianni Active Member

    In America you have a different way of dealing with numismatics. You're stuck with double the stupid mistakes that you pay tens of thousands of dollars wrong investments. in Italy it is preferred to invest in rare coins with a limited circulation the double die market does not like collectors love the rarities of runs
     
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  12. cpm9ball

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    I realize that the language barrier between us is not helping the problem, but you are making it more difficult by refusing to accept the standards that we, here, in the United States have been using since long before you were born.

    The only advice I can give you, is that if you continue arguing and disagreeing with everyone, they will stop trying to help you.

    Chris
     
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  13. gianni

    gianni Active Member

    your opinions are based on a photo, maybe those of PCGS will be of another opinion having it in hand, I'm not that I insist but in the past I had more than one experience in Italian forums with ratings on coins that then turned out different from experts numismatists. the forums are useful to exchange opinions and experiences but they are not the sacred gral, everything must be taken with the right caution
     
  14. Kasia

    Kasia Got my learning hat on

    Please do send your coin to PCGS. I don't normally advocate for that for coins that are details, where people just waste their money to expect it to grade straight or high, where it obviously is not, but it may be the only thing that will get it through your head... but then again...




    could be that you will just get mad at PCGS for not knowing that your coin is super-duper MS65 to you.
     
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  15. rickmp

    rickmp Frequently flatulent.

    Addio, Gianni!
    rickmp ti sta ignorando.
     
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  16. Kentucky

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    What photo? You didn't post one.
     
  17. gianni

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    The image coin 1931-D is obv hr12:00 and rev hr5:00. When you rotate have effect disaligmen 30° degrees
     

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  18. Kasia

    Kasia Got my learning hat on

    30 degrees is a nice rotation error and will add a bit to the value of the coin. The biggest problem is still that it is a details coin because of the marks on the obverse. So it will not have a full value of a coin without those damages.

    I am no expert on value for rotational errors, so I cannot give you an idea of the value of that.
     
  19. Cheech9712

    Cheech9712 Every thing is a guess

    Yes i agree. Collectors don't bat an eye at 15 °
     
  20. gianni

    gianni Active Member

    effect of the rotation be exactly as you see in the photo shot at about 5:00 approximately 30 ° to the right. if it were not for that faint scratch in vertical straight dul would certainly be between MS60 / 65. yet the scratch is not visible to the eye with a photographic enlargement, otherwise it does not show any blows or dents
     
  21. gianni

    gianni Active Member

    being really complicated to make a perfect photograph to have a clear image of the 30 ° rotation I tried with a mirror but not be beautiful. do you know any other method for these cases? thank you
     
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