Eh, what's that in your pediment?

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  1. panzerman

    panzerman Well-Known Member

    I second that!
    John
     
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  3. Cucumbor

    Cucumbor Well-Known Member

    Very cool and interesting OP coin. Love that pediment
    Pediments on Maxentius coins would be a very exciting series to put together IMO

    Here's my only "pedimented" maxentius, featuring the she-wolf suckling, just as steve's example

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    Maxentius, Follis Aquilea mint, 1st officina, AD 309-310
    IMP C MAXENTIVS P F AVG, Laureate head of Maxentius right
    CONSERV VRBS SVAE, Tetrastyle temple, Roma seated left, a foot on captive, giving a globe to Maxentius standing right. She wolf suckling Romulus and Remus in pediment. AQP at exergue
    6.55 gr
    Ref : RCV # 14992 (100), Cohen #42

    Q
     
  4. Valentinian

    Valentinian Well-Known Member

    Here's my she-wolf pediment:
    Maxentiuswolfped.JPG
    MaxentiuswolfO70.JPG MaxentiusCVSwolfR70.JPG
    Apparently several of us have this type in high grade.
     
  5. panzerman

    panzerman Well-Known Member

    Very nice quality Maxentius Follis. Aquilea mint material is hard to get.
     
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  7. Ancient Aussie

    Ancient Aussie Well-Known Member

    Although I wasn't a member when zumbly created this thread I have enjoyed all the temple coins displayed, especially Volodya's Temple of Jupiter and dougsmit's monumental photography effort that would put a lot of us to shame all these years later. To add to this post I will post my two Temple of Jupiter Denarius, the first my earlier acquisition with speckled dark toning and silver highlights and the second a recent buy. 419.jpg Volteim.jpg
     
  8. Roman Collector

    Roman Collector Well-Known Member

    How did I miss this thread the first time it went around? Here are some in my collection:

    This one has a circle in the pediment, which I think is rather boring, but the spiky projections on the roof make up for its otherwise unimaginative decoration:

    Gordian III and Tranquillina Marcianopolis Tyche in temple.jpg
    Gordian III, AD 238-244 and Tranquillina.
    Roman provincial Æ pentassarion, 11.40 g, 25.8, 7 h mm.
    Moesia Inferior, Marcianopolis, legate Tertullius, AD 243-244.
    Obv: AVT K M ANT ΓOPΔIANOC AVΓ CЄ ΤΡΑΝΚVΛ-ΛЄΙΝΑ, confronted draped busts of Gordian III and Tranquillina.
    Rev: VΠ TEPTVΛΛIA-NOV MAPKIANO-ΠOΛEIT-ΩN, Tyche Soteiros (Fortuna Redux), wearing kalathos, holding rudder and cornucopia, standing left within tetrastyle temple with • in pediment; E (mark of value) to left.
    Refs: AMNG (Pick) 1192; Moushmov 841; H&J 6.38.46.2 (R6, same dies); Varbanov 2057 (same dies); SNG Copenhagen 261; SNG Budapest--.

    This one from the same mint has a swirl-shaped (like a cinnamon roll) clipeus in the pediment on its temple:

    Caracalla and Domna Markianopolis Temple of Serapis.jpg
    Caracalla with Julia Domna, AD 198-217.
    Roman provincial Æ Pentassarion, 25.5 mm, 12.01 g, 7 h.
    Moesia Inferior, Marcianopolis, Quintilianus, legatus consularis, AD 212-217.
    Obv: ΑΝΤΩΝΙΝΟC ΑVΓVCΤΟC ΙΟVΛΙΑ ΔΟΜΝΑ, laureate, draped, and cuirassed bust of Caracalla right vis-à-vis draped bust of Julia Domna left.
    Rev: VΠ ΚVΝΤΙΛ-ΙΑΝ ΜΑΡΚΙΑ-NΟΠΟΛΙΤΩ-Ν, Tetrastyle temple with peaked roof and clipeus in pediment, statue of Serapis within, standing left, raising right hand and holding scepter; Є (mark of value) to left of Serapis.
    Refs: AMNG 689 var.; H&J Marcianopolis, 6.19.46.7 (same dies); Varbanov 1049; Moushmov 508; SNG Evelpides 812 var.; Lindgren II 713 var.; BMC 3. 30, 19 var.; SNRIS Marcianopolis 09.

    These two have wreaths in their pediments:

    Soaemias Sebaste Temple.jpg
    Julia Soaemias, AD 218-222.
    Roman Provincial Æ 21.4 mm, 12.48 g.
    Samaria, Sebaste, AD 218-222.
    Obv: SVΛEMIAS ΛV[GVSTΛ] SEB, bare-headed and draped bust, r.
    Rev: COL• L• SE• [SEB• ASTE•], temple of the Capitoline Jupiter* with four columns; Jupiter standing in center between Athena and Hera. Wreath within pediment.
    Ref: Rosenberger 36 (die match); Price & Trell 786; SNG ANS 1083.

    *You can read a very interesting article about this temple here.

    Maxentius CONSERV VRB SVAE follis.jpg
    Maxentius as Augustus, AD 307-312.
    Roman billon follis; 6.57 g, 25.7 mm, 10 h.
    Rome, AD 307-308.
    Obv: IMP C MAXENTIVS P F AVG, radiate head right.
    Rev: CONSERV VRB SVAE, Roma seated facing in hexastyle temple, head left, globe in right hand, scepter in left, shield at side behind, Victories as acroteria, wreath in pediment, H left, R S in exergue.
    Refs: RIC 202a; Cohen 21; RCV 14986.

    And I have NO IDEA what's supposed to be on this pediment. It's sort of like the pediment on the Capitoline temple of Jupiter on @Mat 's Republican denarius of Petillius Capitolinus posted earlier in this thread. A search for other examples at acsearch gives 102 other specimens to examine but no clear answer, as far as I can tell.

    Faustina Sr AED DIV FAVSTINAE denarius.JPG
    Faustina Senior, Augusta AD 138-141.
    Roman AR denarius, 3.27 g, 17.5 mm, 5 h.
    Rome under Antoninus Pius, AD 150.
    Obv: DIVA FAVSTINA, draped bust right.
    Rev: AED DIV FAVSTINAE, hexastyle temple on podium; statues to right and left and seated figure of Faustina in center; statues of Victory at corners of pediment.
    Refs: RIC 343; BMCRE 341; Cohen 1; RCV 4573; CRE 126.
     
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  9. zumbly

    zumbly Ha'ina 'ia mai ana ka puana

    Nice additions to this old thread, guys. Seeing as it's been resurrected, I really should add this Marcus Aurelius Temple of Mercury sestertius because of all the neat stuff it has in the pediment.

    Marcus Aurelius - RELIG AVG c.jpg MARCUS AURELIUS
    AE Sestertius. 29.44g, 31mm. Rome mint, AD 173. RIC 1075; Cohen 535. O: M ANTONINVS AVG TR P XXVII, laureate head right. R: IMP VI - COS III, Mercury standing left on pedestal, holding caduceus and purse, within a tetrastyle temple with telamons as columns; semicircular pediment containing, from left to right, tortoise, cockerel, ram, winged helmet, caduceus, and purse; S-C in field, RELIG AVG in exergue.
    Notes: This type is popularly associated with the Rain Miracle of the Legio XII Fulminata (Thundering 12th Legion). According to Cassius Dio, the 12th Legion under the command of Marcus Aurelius had found themselves encircled and heavily outnumbered by a Quadi Army. Stricken with fatigue, thirst, and the heat, they were on the verge of capture when an Egyptian magician named Anurphis, a companion of the emperor, invoked the aid of Mercury as god of the wind and air. A sudden storm rose in the midst of the battle, reviving the Romans with rain while destroying their enemies with hail and lightning.
     
  10. Roman Collector

    Roman Collector Well-Known Member

    That's one busy pediment!!!
     
  11. zumbly

    zumbly Ha'ina 'ia mai ana ka puana

    And just in case anyone is wondering what actually is up with all that busy-ness, here's a paragraph from Wiki:

    "From the beginning, Mercury had essentially the same aspects as Hermes, wearing winged shoes (talaria) and a winged hat (petasos), and carrying the caduceus, a herald's staff with two entwined snakes that was Apollo's gift to Hermes. He was often accompanied by a cockerel, herald of the new day, a ram or goat, symbolizing fertility, and a tortoise, referring to Mercury's legendary invention of the lyre from a tortoise shell."

    That covers everything except the purse, or marsupium, which I believe symbolises Mercury's function as god of commerce, patron of shopkeepers and merchants.
     
  12. Roman Collector

    Roman Collector Well-Known Member

    Here's Mercury with a marsupium (and caduceus):

    Gallienus FIDES AVG Mercury.jpg
    Gallienus, AD 253-268.
    Roman silvered billon antoninianus, 4.25 g, 21.3 mm, 11 h.
    Antioch, AD 267.
    Obv: GALLIENVS AVG, radiate and cuirassed bust, right.
    Rev: FIDES AVG, Mercury standing right, holding marsupium (purse) and caduceus; PXV (=TR P XV) in exergue.
    Refs: RIC 607F; Göbl 1667k; Cohen 219; RCV 10212; Hunter p. lxx.
     
  13. Roman Collector

    Roman Collector Well-Known Member

    Oh, I forgot this one, with a very boring three horizontal dots in the pediment:

    Gallienus DEO MARTI antoninianus.jpg
    Gallienus, AD 253-268.
    Roman billon antoninianus, 2.39 g, 21.6 mm, 6 h.
    Cologne, AD 237-258.
    Obv: GALLIENVS P F AVG, radiate and cuirassed bust, right.
    Rev: DEO MARTI, Mars standing left in tetrastyle temple, holding shield and spear.
    Refs: RIC 10F var. (joint reign); Göbl 889h; RSC 149a (Lugdunum); RCV --.
     
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  14. Jeffery A Struve

    Jeffery A Struve New Member

    Hi all,

    Who in the USA would you recommend to properly clean an ancient?

    I'd like to submit this one... it is still in transit, so I am limited to the dealers pic...

    Screenshot_20211124-064514_Chrome.jpg

    Thanx,
    Jeff
     
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  15. Heliodromus

    Heliodromus Well-Known Member

    "Roma seated on throne, toga around ankles, holding toilet roll and sceptre"
     
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