So, I've been collecting for a little over a year now, and the past 45 days has been a high quantity period for me. And now, taking a step back and looking at my collection, I've found a couple unexpected groups appear... #1: Roman Hispania A) Irippo, AE24 Semis, Time of Augustus, 27 BC - 14 AD Obverse: Bare male head (Augustus?) right, IRIPPO before, all within wreath. Reverse: Female seated left holding pine cone and cornucopia, all within wreath. References: RPC 55 B) Augustus, AE As 27 BC - 14 AD, Turiaso Mint Lucius Marius and Lucius Novius as duoviri Obverse: IMP AVGVSTVS PATER PATRIEA, laureate bust right, legionary Eagle Head countermark. Reverse: L MARIO L NOVIO MVN TVRIASO, II VIR within wreath. Reference: RPC 411 C) Augustus, AE As 27 BC - 14 AD, Celsa Mint L. Baggius and Mn. Flavius Festus as duoviri Obverse: AVGVSTVS DIVI F, laureate head right. Reverse: Bull standing right; L • BAGGIO above; C VI CEL to left, II VIR to right; MN • FESTO below. References: RPC 273 D) Augustus, AE As 27 BC - 14 AD, Colonia Patricia Mint Obverse: PERM CAES AVG, bare head left. Reverse: COLONIA PATRICIA, legend within oak wreath. References: RPC 129 E.1) Augustus, AE As 27 BC - 14 AD, Julia Traducta Mint Obverse: PERM CAES AVG, bare head left (double struck, die rotated ~90 deg CW). Reverse: IVLIA TRAD, legend within oak wreath. References: RPC 108 E.2) Augustus, AE As 27 BC - 14 AD, Julia Traducta Mint Obverse: PERM CAES AVG, bare head left. Reverse: IVLIA TRAD, legend within oak wreath. References: RPC 108 ------- #2 will be coming soon... Anyone care to guess what that unexpected group might be?
Ha! I could totally see that, but that'd be quite a large group, and that had kind of been a slight intentional focus (Antioch SC coins, Augustus moneyer coins, etc), so not unexpected. Great guess though!
Those are great and all of them from the time of Augustus makes them even more fascinating from a "Biblical" collector's (like me if you haven't guessed ) point of view. A similar thing happened when I became interested in ancient Spanish imitations of Roman Republic coins.
Wonderful coins Justin Lee.. I am even more of a rookie than you... only 7 months in... (and I know it shows!) I do have a couple of Augustus coins to share: Obv: Bare head of Augustus, right Rev: SC within laurel wreath Antioch 5BC 26.5 mm 15.66g This is the sellers attribution - have not verified yet: Augustus 27 BC. - 14 AD., Philippi, Macedonia - bare head of Augustus right, AVG behind / two colonists (or priests?) ploughing right with yoke of oxen(3.12 grams, 16/15 mm) Philippi(?) mint, RPC I 1656 SNG Cop VI 282,
Here's one from Carthago Nova: Caligula AD 37-41. Roman provincial Æ 28 mm, 11.17 gm. Carthago Nova, Spain, AD 37-38. Obv: C. CAESAR AVG. GERMANIC. IMP. P.M. TR.P. COS., laureate head of Caligula, right. Rev: CN. ATEL. FLAC. CN. POM. FLAC. II. VIR. Q.V.I.N.C., head of Salus right, SAL AVG across field. Refs: SGI 419; Heiss 272, 35; Cohen 247, 1; RPC 1, 185; SNG Cop 503.
Love the Augustus with reverse bull. I just bought one like it. Its such an odd looking Augustus coin
Nice coins everyone , I have an Augustus minted Spain. Temple of Mars, Augustus 27-14 BC. Spanish mint (Colonia Partica?) Denarius AR 17mm., 3,48g. RIC 119.
It's hard to tell... This could also be a Tiberius of the same location. They are really similar, but the Tiberius has a TI AVG behind the the bare head. https://www.vcoins.com/en/stores/pa...437ae12colonist_with_oxen/222938/Default.aspx And: https://www.acsearch.info/search.ht...s=1&thesaurus=1&order=0¤cy=usd&company= Or could be Drusus https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=1742859 versus the Augustus: https://www.vcoins.com/en/stores/wa...stus_27_bc14_ad__ae_23_mm/289903/Default.aspx And: https://www.acsearch.info/search.ht...s=1&thesaurus=1&order=0¤cy=usd&company= Might need to do some more studying of the styles of busts and oxen/priests to determine a direction. From my studies/experience, Tiberius (and Claudius and Nero) tends to have a lot more homogenous/consistent, horizontal neck hair portrayed at mostly straight to the right angle, and Augustus' is a little more inconsistent and "flow-y" or downward and to the right angle, if that makes sense... (I've noticed this is true-ish of Antioch Provincial coinage as well.) Tiberius: Augustus:
So the second unexpected grouping that I found in my collection (an area that I wasn't focusing on) were Alexandrian Potin Tetradrachms. And, no, they were not purchased in a lot, but these purchases span across the past 14 months or so. #2: Alexandrian Billion/Potin Tetradrachms (non-AR tets) A) Maximianus Herculius Augustus, 1st reign 286-305 AD Billon Tetradrachm, Struck 290/91 AD, Alexandria, Egypt Obverse: MAΞIMIANOC CЄB, laureate and draped bust right of Maximianus. Reverse: Herakles standing right, head left, holding apple in right hand and club in left, star in upper right field, regnal year L S (year 6) across fields. References: SNG Cop 1042, Milne 4980-81, Emmett 4131 B) Maximianus Herculius Augustus, 1st reign 286-305 AD Billon Tetradrachm, Struck 286/87 AD, Alexandria, Egypt Obverse: Α Κ Μ ΟVΑ ΜΑΞΙΜΙΑΝΟC CЄΒ, laureate and draped bust right of Maximianus. Reverse: Eagle standing left on thunderbolt, wings closed, head turned back with wreath in beak, star in upper left field, regnal year L B (year 2) across fields. References: SNG Cop 1021-1022, Milne 4828, Emmett 4108 C) Probus, 276-282 AD Billon Tetradrachm, Struck 276/77 AD, Alexandria, Egypt Obverse: A K M AVP ΠPOBOC CЄB, laureate and cuirassed bust right of Probus. Reverse: Eagle standing left on thunderbolt, wings closed, head turned back with wreath in beak, regnal year L B (year 2) across fields. References: Dattari 5548, SNG Cop 915, SNG Frankfurt 1200, Emmett 3983 D) Diocletian, 284-305 AD Billon Tetradrachm, Struck 286/87 AD, Alexandria, Egypt Obverse: A K Γ OYA ∆IOKΛHTIANOC CЄB, laureate and draped bust right of Diocletian. Reverse: Tyche standing left holding rudder & cornucopiae, regnal year LΓ (year 3) at right. References: Milne 4821, Emmett 4082 E) Diocletian, 284-305 AD Billon Tetradrachm, Struck 289/90 AD, Alexandria, Egypt Obverse: A K Γ OYA ∆IOKΛHTIANOC CЄB, laureate and draped bust right of Diocletian. Reverse: Elpis walking left, holding flower and raising drapery of dress, star in upper right field, regnal year L S (year 6) across fields. References: Dattari 5670, Emmett 4046
I have to ask: By your definition, when did silver drop to the point that you will collect the coin as billon?
Should I change it to potin? Did I list one/some incorrectly? I'd seen similar coins on vcoins listed as both, so I picked one for consistency... I listed both in the beginning of my post. Where should I look to find such an answer? Sorry @dougsmit that I don't have an answer at this moment, I'm still in the process of learning and this isn't a focus of my collecting (for now).
I've read that "potin" isn't exactly accurate as it means white metal like pewter or tin, which maybe these had an increased amount of, but they also had silver in minor amounts, but I don't know the percentage without doing more searching, etc. It seemed that there is some disagreement on what they should be called based on some previous posts on other forums and places online when I got my first one and was researching them a bit, but that is about a year ago now.
I agree with the state of confusion on potin and use billon whenever I want to acknowledge some silver but it is hard to draw a line on the front end between silver and billon. I collect them all so it is not a problem to me but I wondered who was the oldest you could accept as not silver. This is not a right/wrong question but merely recognition that it was a gradual thing and went back and forth on occasion. Collecting all makes it easy. I could live with calling all Alexandria tets billon but some are obviously more silver than others. Is Commodus too silvery?