[Poll] #1 stevex6 vs #8 Cucumbor (round 2) CIT 2017

Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by Curtisimo, Apr 12, 2017.

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Please vote on the coin you think wins in each of the following categories. 3 votes per voter

Poll closed Apr 16, 2017.
  1. Eye appeal (#1 stevex6)

    7 vote(s)
    12.3%
  2. Value for money (#1 stevex6)

    38 vote(s)
    66.7%
  3. Historical or numismatic interest (#1 stevex6)

    18 vote(s)
    31.6%
  4. Eye appeal (#8 Cucumbor)

    49 vote(s)
    86.0%
  5. Value for money (#8 Cucumbor)

    18 vote(s)
    31.6%
  6. Historical or numismatic interest (#8 Cucumbor)

    38 vote(s)
    66.7%
Multiple votes are allowed.
  1. Curtisimo

    Curtisimo the Great(ish)

    I’m excited to finally be underway with round 2 of the tournament. If you aren’t aware of the tournament or if you missed the results from round 1 then you can get caught up here.

    https://www.cointalk.com/threads/an...intalk-coin-imperator-tournament-2017.293824/

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    Thank you to the participants as well as the voters for making this tournament a success so far and remember to keep in mind that it will all benefit a good cause :)

    #1 @stevex6

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    Antoninus Pius,
    Æ Drachm, Roman Egypt (Alexandria)
    138-161 AD
    Year 8
    Diameter: 34 mm
    Weight: 23.14 grams
    Obv.: Laureate head right
    Rev.: Bust of Aphrodite (Venus) left above bull (Taurus) butting left; star above … Popular astrological type depicting Venus in Taurus
    Reference: Köln 1492-3; Dattari (Savio) 2960; K&G 35.280 (Milne 1808-1809?)
    Other: sweet golden patina, with a few comfy old scratches
    Ex James Theselius Collection

    Price: $150 (2014 Purchase: Inflation adjusted to 2017 = $155)

    Why It’s Cool:
    Alexandria saw an immense output of coinage during the eighth year of Antoninus Pius. The Zodiac drachms, unique mythological types and a host of issues for the nomes appeared that year. One explanation for this activity centers on the celebration of the renewal of the Great Sothic Cycle, the point when the star Sothis (Sirius) rises on the same point on the horizon as the sun. This cycle of 1461 years began again in AD 139, and apparently prompted a renewal in the ancient Egyptian religion, and its connections with the Greco-Roman Pantheon.

    Yup, a cool Bull and sweet, sweet Venus!! (hard to beat that combo, eh?)

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    => what sign are you, Baby?

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    #8 @Cucumbor

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    Roman Republic
    AR Didrachm, Rome mint c. 269-266 BCE
    Obv.: No legend, Diademed head of young Hercules right, with club and lion's skin over shoulder
    Rev.: ROMANO, She wolf right, suckling Romulus and Remus
    7.29 gr
    Ref : RCV # 24, RSC # 8

    Price: Approx. $1500 (purchased 2003: Inflation adjusted to 2017 = $1,985)

    Why It’s Cool:
    1 - Everybody agrees to say animals on coins are very cool (even @stevex6 can approve I guess :D. Challenging this guy needs a bit of coaxing :D)

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    2 - Romano-campanian didrachms were the first silver coins minted by the Roman Republic, as early as 269-266 BCE. Before that, people would only use bronze units, with the disadvantage of needing loads of them to buy their diaries, newspapers, Coca-Cola and cigarettes.

    3 – Style-wise, these coins (either featuring Mars, Roma or Hercules) are still very greek, while theLupa Romanasymbolizes the myth of the foundation of Rome. On this specimen the she-wolf seems very lively.

    4- It’s such an iconic coin that it’s represented on major reference books’ cover, such asRoman coins and their values(millennium edition) and others. It also illustrates the Roman Republican Coins in the British Museum website’s homepage.

    5 - Of course, visiting Rome will lead you to the Capitol were you can glance at the Lupa capitolina:

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    All the comments in the first round were friendly, educational and lots of fun. I very much enjoyed it so let’s keep that going into this round also!

    One small change for this round is that the polls will close after 4 days. It seems most everyone who wanted to vote in the first round was able to by about that time. If we need to make another adjustment we can do so in the semi-finals. Good luck to the players!

    …and as before PLEASE post your relevant (or irrelevant) examples pile on style!
     
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  3. Sallent

    Sallent Live long and prosper

    I think @Cucumbor just destroyed the competition. The French just crushed the Canadians.
     
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  4. icerain

    icerain Mastir spellyr

    Even if its only for entertainment, I do like astrology and zodiac symbols. But that didrachm is so cool.
     
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  5. Curtisimo

    Curtisimo the Great(ish)

    I'm not so sure. The round is young and that's a pretty sweet bull drachm. If it were my coins that had to face it I'm pretty sure this is how they would feel about it.

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    Love both coins :)
     
  6. Paddy54

    Paddy54 Well-Known Member

    You guys crack me up! :stop:
     
  7. Sallent

    Sallent Live long and prosper

    Man, I am slow today. I just realized I have a she-wolf coin:

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    Incidentally, the Latin word for female wolf and the slang for prostitute was the same: Lupa. Some ancients who didn't buy the wolf story believed that the lupa was a female prostitute, which would make more sense. But I don't think a coin depicting a prostitute breastfeeding two infants would be PG-13 enough for this thread, so perhaps its for the best that the she-wolf story won out.
     
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  8. Paddy54

    Paddy54 Well-Known Member

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    Now while you contemplate who's coin is the coolest I suggest this LP as not only does it have the lonelybull but also El Lobo on the album.
    The music may move you....if not may suggest prune juice... :) bottoms up cheers my geek friends.
     
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  9. green18

    green18 Unknown member Sweet on Commemorative Coins

    Quite agree..........oh the humanity.
     
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  10. green18

    green18 Unknown member Sweet on Commemorative Coins

    We weren't geeks back then. Just young lovers looking for an outlet..........and it never happened........at least for me it didn't. :)
     
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  11. zumbly

    zumbly Ha'ina 'ia mai ana ka puana

    Wow, super tough choice! Cucumbor's is total eye candy, a very significant type, and great value. Steve's entry on the other hand really hits my soft spot with the A-Pi zodiac Drachm, and at that price it's like he hopped onto his dog sled, rode into town and robbed a bank :D. Great matchup!
     
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  12. Paul M.

    Paul M. Well-Known Member

    Well, @stevex6, you did it. You made me vote for that coin. :p These things are so cool and so rare, I had to give it to you for value and historical interest, especially because it was minted by the best emperor. ;) It was tough deciding who to vote for on eye appeal, but I felt I had to give something to that super cool Republican didrachm @Cucumbor fielded.
     
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  13. Paddy54

    Paddy54 Well-Known Member

    Ummm bet it did......wasn't your mom wondering where all the Cool Whiped went ? HA_WhippedCream.jpg
     
  14. green18

    green18 Unknown member Sweet on Commemorative Coins

  15. Smojo

    Smojo dreamliner

    Read the book SPQR A history of Ancient Rome by Mary Beard.
    She explains the she wolf, Romulus quite well and the other arguments for the real begining of ancient Rome.
    I'm in the process of reading it now. It's a good book so far a little hard to get into for someone like me who has a busy schedule.

    Ok,
    For the contest.
    Both coins are sweet, tough pick. Really like Stevex drachm. Love the didrachm maybe a touch more. Come on Greek Roman, silver.
    Tough call for me anyways.
     
  16. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    What, are you crazy?! => a fricken she-wolf is beating my coin!! (brutal)

    Oh well, obviously Sallent and the rest of you dudes have zero clue!!

    ;)

    Whatev => I love you Q, and I love your cool coin ... coingrats!!

    I still think that my coin blows yours outta the bay, but , but ... arrrggghh

    Time-out ... I rolled my ankle!! ... time-out!!

     
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  17. green18

    green18 Unknown member Sweet on Commemorative Coins

    Wordless.......
     
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  18. Sallent

    Sallent Live long and prosper

    I read the book...Well, does listening to it count? I listened to it through my audible account, while stuck in rush hour traffic. That's my routine for when stuck in traffic, listening to history audiobooks to pass the time.
     
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  19. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    beat it
     
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  20. Curtisimo

    Curtisimo the Great(ish)

    LOL

    Now that song is gonna be stuck in my head!
     
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  21. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    I love you guys ... good times

    => great coin, Q (you rock, coin-bro)

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