A Late January Pick Up-Nero

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  1. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    I know it's Nero and I'm thinking around 50 AD. Other than that, I know nothing. Hope I got it at a decent price. Let me know as it was under $50.00. It's nice in hand but with a small amount of porosity. I love the reverse, just wish the design was a bit stronger. I have no understanding of the reverse design.

    Thanks in advance for helping me out with this nice coin.

    Nero-Obv.jpg Nero-Rev.jpg
     
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  3. Ajax

    Ajax Well-Known Member

    What a sweet coin, I'm a bit jealous. I think it's RIC 543 Lyons but don't take my word for it.
     
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  4. Mikey Zee

    Mikey Zee Delenda Est Carthago

    Cool example, especially for the price!!

    The 'Victory advancing holding a wreath and palm' and the 'Flying victory with an SPQR inscribed shield' was often used on several of his coins as this acsearch link makes very clear...

    The first link is an As :
    https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=2313267

    The second link contains a wide variety of the general type and denominations....

    https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?term=nero victory globe&category=1-2&en=1&de=1&fr=1&it=1&es=1&ot=1&images=1&currency=usd&thesaurus=1&order=0&co
     
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  5. Aethelred

    Aethelred The Old Dead King

    Nice coin, you just can't have too many Neros.
     
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  6. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    Collecting Nut => yah, I love that coin-type (congrats on that sweet price)

    ... the price seems almost too sweet, eh? (hopefully your coin is legit)

    Whoa-whoa ... sorry, yah I am "not" the guy that cries foul (again, I have zero reason to believe that this coin is suspect)

    Sadly, I paid quite a bit more for my cool example ... like "way-more"

    :oops:


    nero.jpg nero2.jpg

    Oh, but this is still one of my favourite coins, from my favourite seller

    C-Nut => again, congrats on your cool new OP-addition (oh, and I'm totally jealous of that amazingly sweet price!!)

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  7. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    VERY nice Nero! Well centered, nice clean field... Victory is always cool.

    I have one with one of his wives...
    RI Poppea-Nero BI tetradrachm of Alexandria LI yr10 63-64AD Milne 217 RPC 5275 O-R.jpg
    RI Poppea-Nero BI tetradrachm of Alexandria LI yr10 63-64AD Milne 217 RPC 5275
     
  8. ro1974

    ro1974 Well-Known Member

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    one out my collection
    great coins i like them
    Nero dupondius
     
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  9. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    Yours is in better condition with more detail and I have no doubts about the authenticity as I purchased it from a very reputable dealer.
     
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  10. red_spork

    red_spork Triumvir monetalis

    Shouldn't Nero have a radiate crown if this is a dupondius? Is it perhaps a sestertius based on the brassy color?
     
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  11. Cucumbor

    Cucumbor Well-Known Member

    Not necessarily. At this time/period things were not engraved in marble about asses, duponddi and sestertii as for what metal they were made of and radiate or laurel crown

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  12. gregarious

    gregarious E Pluribus Unum

    that's a nice one! and @ a good price too! congrats. i have one of him with victory/shield spqr Nero ASSES 003.JPG Nero ASSES 005.JPG
     
  13. Eduard

    Eduard Supporter**

    A nice Nero at a very decent price I would say.
    :)
     
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  14. randygeki

    randygeki Coin Collector

  15. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    At this time the Lugdunum (Lyon) mint was distinguished by the globe at the point of the bust as shown on the OP coin but missing from ro1974's nice dupondius. This is one case where I prefer a coin with no patina since it is hard to tell what metal is under a green outside. Both of the coins below are dupondii. On top is a green (over brass) Lugdunum mint weighing 13.2g.
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    The one below is 15.0g and is what we call belt and suspenders while holding your pants up with the other hand. It is a dupondius with radiate crown, orichalcum color and bears the denomination mark II in exergue. The lack of the globe at the point of the bust signifies Rome mint.
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    The coin shown by gregarious makes a good point about the globe. I believe his has one (therefore, Lugdunum (Lyon) mint) but a weak strike makes it not show all that well. Some are off flan due to centering.

    As far as I am concerned, Nero dupondii are very good deals for us budget minded types. They are usually well over half the size of sestertii but sell for a lot less. Asses are easier to find than dupondii but still great coins. Denarii are expensive and no better in die work. The as below is 9.3g of red copper conveniently showing through the green patina. Orichalcum was valued much above copper so asses are not all that much smaller than dupondii.
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    That leaves sestertii of which I only have one doggy example at 22.4g. Part of its low weight is due to the corrosion loss but these things vary quite a bit anyway.
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  16. Ancient Aussie

    Ancient Aussie Well-Known Member

    Nice coin Collecting Nut, full legend and as with a lot of Nero's coins well centred and best of all great price. I have one of that minted a bit later in his reign 65 AD, at Lugdunum, 28mm, 9.79gm, RIC 478. 20160822_165638.jpg
     
  17. Orfew

    Orfew Draco dormiens nunquam titillandus

    Here is my favourite Nero

    new nero ric 68 combined.jpg
     
  18. IdesOfMarch01

    IdesOfMarch01 Well-Known Member

    Excellent informational discussion and illustration of Nero's bronzes.

    I concur that the OP coin is RIC 543 (Lugdunum) ca. 68 A.D.:

    Obv.: IMP NERO CAESAR AVG P MAX TR P P P Nero bare, right. Globe at point of bust.
    Rev.: Victory flying left, holding in both hands shield inscribed S P Q R, S C to left and right.
     
  19. gregarious

    gregarious E Pluribus Unum

    nice coin of Nero
     
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  20. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

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