Its that time again, so what's a better investment vehicle and value for your money GOLD or SILVER

Discussion in 'Bullion Investing' started by mpcusa, Sep 4, 2025 at 1:58 AM.

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What should be my next PM purchase ?

  1. 1 Kilo of Silver

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  2. 32 ASE,S

    4 vote(s)
    40.0%
  3. 1 OZ GOLD bar

    5 vote(s)
    50.0%
  4. 1/2 OZ GOLD bar

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  5. 1/2 OZ AGE

    1 vote(s)
    10.0%
  1. mpcusa

    mpcusa "Official C.T. TROLL SWEEPER"

    Decisions, decisions decisions, with the price of PM,S going thru the roof its that time again to make that purchase unfortunately I am a bit hobbled right now so can't get to
    my local Costco in St George, Utah which is the nearest that handles GOLD at a reasonable premium of $70 so not sure I want to pay a double premium at my LCS
    with that said here are the contenders, I will vote at the end and show you what I ended up buying.
     
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  3. SensibleSal66

    SensibleSal66 U.S Casual Collector / Error Collector

    Depends on your budget. Everyone has one. Well, almost everyone. :oops:
     
  4. David Betts

    David Betts Elle Mae Clampett cruising with Dad

    Silvers been outperforming gold and you can get a boatload more?
     
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  5. slackaction1

    slackaction1 Supporter! Supporter

    Yep, can't go wrong with either choice I imagine.
    mpcusa
     
  6. Mr. Flute

    Mr. Flute Well-Known Member

    Silver is still below its historical peak and gold is at its historical peak.

    There is more % increase potential for Silver and 32 ASEs are easier to sell in tranches to test upward or downward price movement than 1 oz of gold.
     
  7. rte

    rte Well-Known Member

    The way prices are heading I vote the Big gold option.
    If you were are a person who likes playing with Fire :p or makes jewelry from raw materials, big bars are the best bang all around.
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  8. rte

    rte Well-Known Member

    Can you order from Costco and have them bring it to your car :D like people do with groceries.
     
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  9. Randy Abercrombie

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  10. mpcusa

    mpcusa "Official C.T. TROLL SWEEPER"

    But which has the most potential for growth ? I've been looking at a couple things
    and comparing ebay to my LCS, so what's worse paying taxes or premiums which ever is less of course...LOL
     
  11. rte

    rte Well-Known Member

    TAXES...The premiums you should be able to negotiate.
    The TAXES you shouldn't be paying.
    You need a workaround.
     
  12. mpcusa

    mpcusa "Official C.T. TROLL SWEEPER"

    To update the thread, I called my LCS to see what the premium would be on 1 OZ
    GOLD ramp bar and its about $155 which is significantly less then the taxes on the same bar on the bay so at this point mulling around the possibilities.
     
  13. rte

    rte Well-Known Member

    Rusty,
    Don't buy anything yet...
    Shoot me a PM.
    I have a proven solution.

    Tax Free Precious Metals
    Nevada’s tax laws are not straightforward, as some coins are taxed and others are not. Typically, though, a precious metal coin, round or bar that is valued purely for its precious metal content and does not contain a face value (more common with bars and rounds than coins) is exempt from tax.

    However, anything that is considered a collectible, including coins with a face value and coins with a premium attached to them, will be taxed. The rule states that, to qualify for tax exemption, the premium attached to the item must be less than 50% of its inherent value. So, if a coin is worth $10 when melted down but you bought it for $15, you will be taxed, but not if you bought it for $14.

    Therefore, the best things to buy if you’re stacking precious metals in Nevada is blank rounds and bars.

    Source: http://www.taxrates.com/state-rates/nevada/
     
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  14. Mr. Flute

    Mr. Flute Well-Known Member

    Silver has the most potential for % upside...right now and downward/upward arbitrage testing is easier in tranches with 32 ASEs.
     
  15. -jeffB

    -jeffB Greshams LEO Supporter

    Oh, for... what an ill-posed, undefendable rule.

    What if you bought it for $30 when melt was $19.99, but then melt rose to $20.01? Or vice versa?

    Who defines "inherent value"? COMEX? Their quotes are only for good delivery bars.

    Are rare collectible bars and rounds still considered bullion?

    What a stupid law. Glad I don't have to deal with it.
     
  16. mpcusa

    mpcusa "Official C.T. TROLL SWEEPER"

    Though SILVER is very affordable right now @ 41.00 and GOLD is going out of this world @ 3,594 though the percentage of growth of SILVER might be higher were
    only looking at cents here ,GOLD bumped up to another record high the suspense is killing me when will it stop, the new mantance level for GOLD is $3,500 will see how long it can hold it ??
     
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  17. -jeffB

    -jeffB Greshams LEO Supporter

    Looks like the silver spike this morning almost got us to 30x FV for 90% coins, then fell back.
     
  18. Mr. Flute

    Mr. Flute Well-Known Member

    I hear ya, but if one is going to spend the same absolute $ amount on the forms of PMs you outlined in the first post, I still think the percentage increase play is better with Silver and selling plays can be stepped with the intrinsic increments provided by 32 ASEs.

    But it's all YMMV at the individual level.
     
  19. rte

    rte Well-Known Member

    Years ago I know someone who bought a new Diamond Ring at Movado on the strip in Vegas.
    That person lived in another state (let's say Arizona) :p
    The clerk at the Movado store said if they wanted the ring now to wear out of the store, they would have to pay Nevada sales tax. :(
    IF they shipped the ring back to their address in Say Arizona, they would not have to pay the Nevada sales tax.:greedy:
    Say the Movado ring was $15,000 :wideyed: The Tax would add another $1000.o_O
    Was it worth the extra $1000 to make the fiancee happy and get a ring on her finger quicker. :D
    PROBABLY, BUT the smart buyer was thinking outside the box.:p
    Smart buyer was able to slip the ring on her finger and Shipped the box with the receipt back to Arizona :D
    Like I said WORKAROUND
     
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  20. No_Ragrets

    No_Ragrets Self-proclaimed Semi-Amateur Numismatist Supporter

    I voted for the 32 ASE's, but they tend to take up a lot of space, especially compared to a 1 oz gold bar. But I believe I saw that the US government recently added silver to the critical commodities list (or whatever it's called) so if they're entering the fray and will be buying lots of it, that could easily help bump the price up even higher. Who knows for sure though? Certainly not me, that's for sure!
     
  21. -jeffB

    -jeffB Greshams LEO Supporter

    Recommended for addition, along with copper. Save your (pre-1982) pennies! :rolleyes:
     
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