.715 or .7234 to Calculate 90%

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  1. Bman33

    Bman33 Well-Known Member

    Wanted to know what you all use to calculate the face value of your 90%. When I use the Coinflation Website it uses the .7234 number with the bid price and when I go to Provident Metals it uses the .715 number with the ask price. I do know that the .715 number is to take some wear of the dimes, quarters, and halves into account.
     
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  3. galapac

    galapac Seeking Knowledge

    I use the following:

    1942-1945 Jefferson Nickel 0.05630
    1892-1916 Barber Dime 0.07230
    1916-1945 Mercury Dime 0.07230
    1946-1964 Roosevelt Dime 0.07230
    1892-1916 Barber Quarter 0.18080
    1916-1930 Standing Liberty Quarter 0.18080
    1932-1964 Washington Quarter 0.18080
    1892-1915 Barber Half Dollar 0.36170
    1916-1947 Walking Liberty Half Dollar 0.36170
    1948-1963 Franklin Half Dollar 0.36170
    1964 Kennedy Half Dollar 0.36170
    1965-1970 Half Dollar (40%) 0.14790
    1878-1921 Morgan Dollar 0.77350
    1921-1935 Peace Dollar 0.77350
    1971-1976 Eisenhower Dollar (40%) 0.31620



    This is what NGC has to say about it...
    https://www.ngccoin.com/priceguide/Coin-Melt-Values.aspx
     
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  4. doug444

    doug444 STAMPS and POSTCARDS too!

    Since so many buyers and sellers "use" Coinflation, I'd use their number, 0.7234

    Just verified it, silver at $16.96 and half dollars at $6.1343 (x 2) equals $12.2686 for a dollar unit's worth. Divide 12.2686 by 16.96 and yep, it's 0.7233844 rounded to 0.7234 --
     
  5. Bman33

    Bman33 Well-Known Member

    So the .715 number is going to short you some.
     
  6. galapac

    galapac Seeking Knowledge

    If you buy from Provident?
    They sell by face value, not by weight so it should not matter although I would never buy 90% through them.

    Anyone who sells by weight is most likely trying to rip you off.
     
  7. Bman33

    Bman33 Well-Known Member

    .715 is used by provident and most dealers at shows I have run into. The equation is spot * .715 gives you their melt value. If you want to know what they are charging over spot in face value terms it is spot+premium * .715.
     
  8. scottishmoney

    scottishmoney Buh bye

    The .715 is used to account for silver that is lost through circulation on well worn down coins - ie most of the Barbers you see in "junk silver" lots.

    When I have bought junk silver I preferred 90% Kennedies and newer Franklins etc for that reason. Barbers and older SL are cool for age factor, but they are usually pretty heavily worn and don't weigh as much as they did when they were minted.
     
  9. Bman33

    Bman33 Well-Known Member

    I have found that to be true for Merc dimes too.
     
  10. scottishmoney

    scottishmoney Buh bye

    Back in the early 90s when I was buying junk silver I would occasionally find Barbers, mostly dimes, but even halves in lots. They would grade AG-3 and would weigh in at the .715 or so, not .7234.

    Haven't bought silver since it was like $6.50 an ounce or so.
     
  11. doug444

    doug444 STAMPS and POSTCARDS too!

    When you're dealing with another party, the odds are high they will want Coinflation because it's well-known, easy to use, and available online with no fuss.

    If you hold out to use "your" numbers, they may think there's something funny going on, and a good deal may blow up. That tiny increment isn't worth obsessing over.
     
  12. Bman33

    Bman33 Well-Known Member

    That sounds like a good plan. When I sold at my coin club that's what I did. I also used bid price not ask price.
     
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