1909-S VDB Real or fake?

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  1. Steven Shaw

    Steven Shaw Well-Known Member

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  3. dwhiz

    dwhiz Collector Supporter

    THIS IS A RAW COIN, OFFERED AS IS WHERE IS WITH NO GUARANTEE OF GRADE & CONDITION.
    Me, I would pass
     
  4. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    I’d pass just on your statement.
     
  5. -jeffB

    -jeffB Greshams LEO Supporter

    I interpret that disclaimer as "it's cleaned, don't try to come back on us if it doesn't straight grade". They don't disclaim authenticity, and even if they did, they'd be in a world of hurt if they tried to sell fakes.

    That being said, I'm not comfortable authenticating this date myself, and I don't know how well they can do it, so... pass.
     
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  6. 1stSgt22

    1stSgt22 I'm just me! Supporter

    A while back I posted a pic of mine and someone had an overlay that showed the mint mark location was correct. Don't know if that is a valid way to verify or not. Bought mine from a dealer that would refund.
     
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  7. SensibleSal66

    SensibleSal66 U.S Casual Collector / Error Collector

    I passed just a while ago in the hall. :smuggrin:
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  8. BuffaloHunter

    BuffaloHunter Short of a full herd Supporter

    Myself, I wouldn’t bid on a coin of this caliber unless it were in a slab.
     
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  9. Sting 60

    Sting 60 Well-Known Member

    I always assumed that the period between the V and D was usually almost right in the center between the V and D. At least mine is.
     
  10. Sting 60

    Sting 60 Well-Known Member

    Maybe it's the picture, but I don't see a period after the B either.
     
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  12. KBBPLL

    KBBPLL Well-Known Member

    I would say it's an added S, added VDB fake. https://coinweek.com/counterfeit-coin-09-s-vdb/ also shows the diagnostics. The subject coin VDB looks a lot like the added VDB in the article. Mint mark is closest to position #3 but it lacks the clockwise rotation. As noted, it seems too tall, and lacks the die chip inside the upper loop all the real ones have. Plus it just looks like it was stuck on there. I wouldn't touch one of these unless it was certified. It's the number one most counterfeited coin.
     
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  13. KBBPLL

    KBBPLL Well-Known Member

    Here are some images from the listing for posterity.
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    1909img.jpeg 1909revimg.jpeg
     
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  14. SensibleSal66

    SensibleSal66 U.S Casual Collector / Error Collector

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