Is investing in 1 oz Silver Coins a Good Idea

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  1. jaredtrout

    jaredtrout Member

    Only uneducated special needs half brains will buy when it is high and expect to cash in....You better know your shizz or you will get slaughtered like a sheeple...I just told you how to do it for a profit in the previous post. Right this moment is a dip in the price!
     
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  3. baseball21

    baseball21 Well-Known Member

    You mean like when it was falling from 50 and had a dip? Or a dip at 40? Or a dip at 30?..........
     
  4. Truble

    Truble Well-Known Member

    yes, i have done well trading on the ratio, its a slower process since ratio moves at a snails pace. Right now I am buying silver as I can. the Ratio of 70:1, means silver is under valued to gold. Once the ratio gets in the 45:1 range I will swap. I have almost tripled my original silver holdings since 2008 without any additional investment. Once it drops to the 30-45 range I start buying gold. as the ratio creeps back over 45:1 I will start considering a reverse swap again this time the Gold for Silver.
    When you look at the math its kinda cool, I will keep the math simple using only 70 and 30 as the ratio swings.

    Initial Investment:Your Starting portfolio looks like this 90oz Silver, 0oz Gold
    So if you start with 90 oz of Silver when the ratio is 70:1, and the ratio then moves to 30:1 (it will take some time) but sell the 90oz of silver for 3 ounces of Gold.
    Now your portfolio looks like this
    After Trade 1:0oz Silver 3oz Gold
    As the ratio swings back to 70:1, you reverse the trade, sell the Gold and buy silver
    Now your portfolio looks like this
    After Trade 2: 210oz silver, 0oz Gold.
    other than a small premium on the sale and purchase you original investment of silver or gold has increase without significant additional investment.
    Take it a few more trades and watch what happens
    Trade 3: 0oz Silver, 7oz Gold
    Trade 4: 490oz Silver, 0oz Gold
    Trade 5: 0oz Silver, 16.3oz Gold
    Trade 6: 1143.33oz silver, 0oz Gold

    Not all results are so clean, and I have only had the swing to 30 once, but most of my trades have occurred in the 45-60 range. it been a while since I have swapped because the ration is staying in the 70+ range. So all I am doing now is buying silver on the ratio, not the price.

    This is a long term trade process (multiple years), ratios have been stuck in the upper 60s to close 80 range for sometime. When it is this high don't buy Gold its a silver buyers market, just buy silver physical not the crap ETFs. when the ratio drops below your specific range sell your silver, buy Gold. It has taken me almost eight years to grow my silver portfolio, so be patient.
     
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  5. jaredtrout

    jaredtrout Member

    None of those are dips....Not even 20.....Again anyone with half a brain knew that the market would never hold ...Only people that thought the US economy as a whole was going to collapse like Greece' did, so they thought $50 was a good deal...My local bullion dealer was still paying $42 when it was at $45 and never turned any silver away....The 20 trillion in debt will catch up with us at some point, we just dont know when....When it does , $100 /oz will be a bargain!!!!!!
     
  6. Clawcoins

    Clawcoins Damaging Coins Daily

    The ETFs. You may have a buyin and sellout fee (just like a mutual fund/stock). And the one's I've looked at have monthly or quarterly fees, though small can affect your breakeven point.

    I still own my tubes I bought back when silver was $7ish. I should have sold them when silver maxxed out a few years ago but I enjoy having them.
     
  7. Clawcoins

    Clawcoins Damaging Coins Daily

    I'm prepared
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    I saved up all my pennies ... :)
     
    Last edited: Jan 6, 2017
  8. I don't recommend this for investment but some profit can be made if you select a 1oz silver coin with some future potential numismatic premium but purchase close to spot. There are some Britannias, Libertads, etc that command nice premiums due to low mintage/supply or demand for the series. TC
     
  9. jaredtrout

    jaredtrout Member

    very nice
     
  10. jaredtrout

    jaredtrout Member

    I hate ETFS personally...FEE this...Fee that....give me my physical metal....Owning c
    metals on paper is worthless if the economy crashes Go ahead and try to gain physical custody of your metal if Silver goes up to $100....Even if you show up at headquarters you will get some runaround or need a court motion ...just a bunch of headache bullshit in my opinion
     
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  11. Bman33

    Bman33 Well-Known Member

    Let's not forget about the Zombie Apocalypse that is on the Horizon either...J/K. I enjoy trading silver, it's fun and if I can play things right again this year I will make another profit like I did last year.
     
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  12. Clawcoins

    Clawcoins Damaging Coins Daily

    The ASZE . American Silver Zombie Eagle (Walker)
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  13. Bman33

    Bman33 Well-Known Member

    I collected those last year but didn't buy this one because it had a $65.00 price tag. When I dumped a lot of silver back in the beginning of October I sold all my Zombucks. I actually liked the last one the most. "The Saint".
     
  14. Clawcoins

    Clawcoins Damaging Coins Daily

    when the Zombie Apocalypse occurs how are you gonna pay off all the zombies then ? That's right ... with lead ... :)
     
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  15. desertgem

    desertgem Senior Errer Collecktor Supporter

    Just read the internet's Castrophe-crash-collapse blurbs and watch late night shopping channels...and then do the opposite. Why would they sell you something for "worthless cash dollars" and give you their bullion??? It takes some efforts to learn, but IF you would sell as it is going up before it goes back down, rather than just always holding/accumulating, learn to use options/futures like the bullion houses use. They sell because they have protected their buying/ selling levels, so no matter if it goes up or goes down, they will make a good margin for them. Buying /selling physical only, as a private investor, requires you to be a time/traveler.
     
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  16. FryDaddyJr

    FryDaddyJr Junior Member

    You've been drinking too much huckster kool aid
     
  17. Deadline

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  18. MerlinAurelius

    MerlinAurelius Well-Known Member

    In my opinion, precious metals are good for storing wealth that is to be passed from generation to generation. Personally, I would not use physical gold or silver as an investment vehicle in order to get returns during my lifetime. But that's just me.

    I would, however, liquidate my holdings of gold or silver, using say Apmex, and then buy the other when the gold to silver ratio is favorable. Thus, increasing the size of my holdings without having to constantly purchase more and more. I would buy silver when ration is ~75:1 or above(like now). Then sell the silver and buy gold when it is 50:1 or below.

    If I buy 150 ounces of silver @ 75:1 it takes 75 ounces to equal one ounce of gold so my 150 ounces of silver is equivalent to 2 ounces of gold.
    If I then sell my 150 ounces of silver when the ratio is 50:1 and buy gold, that 150 ounces of silver now turns into 3 ounces of gold, and I didn't have to pay anymore out of pocket. This is how I plan to do it after I have put about 5% of my wealth into bullion. And teach my children to do the same with the precious metals I pass on to them. Simply an inter-generational savings account.

    You can check the gold:silver ratio and many other great historical charts here
    http://www.macrotrends.net/1441/gold-to-silver-ratio
     
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  19. Deadline

    Deadline Active Member

    Great post, thanks for sharing that. I have been reading around about that but have not been able to find out why people were doing that. Thanks again! I am still trying to wrap my head around it. Does the price of silver matter when you make the swap? If you bought in at $19 an oz. and the GSR moves to your swap point and silver is now at $17 an ounce would you still swap it out? Or does it not matter since you are just playing the GSR?
     
    Last edited: Jan 6, 2017
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  20. MerlinAurelius

    MerlinAurelius Well-Known Member

    Didn't see your post and I just made a similar post.

    Great to hear it is working out for someone else!! I am just stacking at this point until I have 5% of my wealth in precious metals.

    I am also acquiring mostly silver bullion at this time regardless of price, at or near spot when available.

    Check out this site for long term charts
    http://www.macrotrends.net/charts/precious-metals
     
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  21. Deadline

    Deadline Active Member

    I was just looking at those historical charts a little while ago. Funny thing that in Jan. of 1917 silver was $17.33. If people don't think it is seriously underpriced and the deal of the century today at $16.55 I don't know what is. Common folks need to take advantage of JP morgans artificial silver price manipulation/suppression. They are hoarding it to the tune of 450 MOZ. https://srsroccoreport.com/forensic-evidence-why-silver-price-manipulation-will-end/
     
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