Why is it Planchet Problems get a details grade?

This is something that i have always wondered about. Why would a planchet problem be lumped into the Details catagory, when everything else would be a post mint problem. Yet other mint errors/problems get a straight grade?

Even adjustment makes which can be ugly get a straight grade.

Some are almost un-noticeable.

Based on the TPG`s detail grades are for damage and altering of coins post minting with this exception.

Does anyone have any reason why this would be?

 

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Do you have an example. Typically they are straight graded if the coin doesn't have other issues. However a peeling lamination may get body bagged because they don't want it falling off in the holder and damaging the coin as it rattles around in the slab

 

I own a coin with an original planchet problem. It was straight graded.

EDIT: Sometimes you all you can do is get one with a planchet problem =P

 

Years ago, I owned a beautiful 1911 Liberty nickel with a good sized planchet flaw on the reverse. It was graded MS64, but I wonder if it wouldn't have been a 65 without the planchet flaw.

 

Wouldn't the TPG's take something like that into account as it relates to eye appeal?

 

I'm honestly unaware that planchet problems cause a Details grade.

 

I have no idea how they factor it in. I found it a perfectly acceptable 64. The flaw wasn't all that distracting, and didn't affect the strike except where the flaw itself was.

 

This would be 1 example of mine.

PCGS Coin Information
PCGS # 201543
Date, mintmark 1890
Denomination 1/2D
Variety S-3956
Country Great Britain
Grade Genuine AU Details (93 - Planchet Flaw)
Holder Type PCGS Secure

Now there are worse defective planchets out there especially copper Chinese coins from early 1900. They looked similar to this:

 

I would think because its a mint problem that it would be the same as any other error coin and straight grade. this has always baffled me.

 

Although there are examples - such as the one you've posted - it's been my experience that these are the exception rather than the rule. Frankly, I've no idea why they refused to straight grade the Ha'penny. Our thinking is in complete agreement.

 

Maybe this thread that @paddyman98 recently posted will lend some insight to your dilemma.

https://www.cointalk.com/threads/wh...d-why-does-ngc-even-care.288331/#post-2600999

Chris

 

I don't buy that explanation.

Chris

 

Thanks chris didnt see that 1.

Wheel marks would be considered pmd i would assume.

I think i may email the pcgs/ngc and ask this same question to see their response. Maybe that will give some insight.

 

If you're a member of the NGC Collectors Society, you can post your question on their forum, "Ask NGC".

Chris

 

I am. I will do that.

 

Don't buy what?

 

I thought I was pretty clear............your explanation.

Chris

 

What explination, that they typically are if other factors aren't at play?

 

Let us all know if you can find this reason in an official statement from one of the major grading services.

Until then, I don't buy it!

Chris

 

Sometimes errors get details graded if not submitted under the error tier