PCGS SET REGISTRY, A TOTAL WASTE OF TIME!

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  1. coins776

    coins776 no title

    i started some sets on pcgs set registry a number
    of times for a while now, and each set i start always
    ends up the same, i delete it. the reason is no matter
    what coins i add, it just keeps telling me that many of
    them don't match whatever given set i am working on.
    the most recent example of this is an (everyman) lincoln
    wheat cent set, circulation strikes 1909-1958. no varieties.
    i added some low grade, low priced coins to start the set
    (i posted pics of them below), and it added all but one, the
    1921-s. they said it is already in some other persons set so
    i sent the remove from set email but so far that did not help.
    i added four more low priced lincolns to my set but it would
    not add them, it says they don't match. please tell me how 1939,
    1944-s, 1949 and 1949-s don't match this set? they just keep
    saying shop for coins to match the set. by the way the shop for
    coins is mostly just coins listed on ebay and then calling it some
    other website 2e.jpg 2f.jpg 2g.jpg 2j.jpg 2l.jpg 2n.jpg 2q.jpg 2r.jpg 2o.jpg 2p.jpg name, i think it is called collecters.com. what a waste of time.
     
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  4. rlm's cents

    rlm's cents Numismatist

    Can't talk about PCGS sets. I have NGC sets. Never had a problem with them. Occasionally, I get a coin someone else has registered. They take care of transferring it.
     
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  5. Tim C

    Tim C Active Member

    It would help if you read the rules: http://www.pcgs.com/setregistry/rules.aspx

    I quote:
    "Everyman Sets
    Everyman sets do not allow any coin with a grade higher than 58+. Allowable coins are graded 58+ or less can be designated a circulation strike or proof."

    In other words, the "Everyman Sets" consist of coins graded below MS60, this is why your 1939, 1944-s, 1949 and 1949-s don't match this set.

    Also in the rules, it states:

    "Should you attempt to list a coin and you receive an error message telling you that the coin is currently owned by another registrant, please use the automatic email feature that will send an email to the former owner asking for release. Your name will not be sent to the other member. Please allow three business days for the former owner to release the coin. If, after three business days, the inventory item has not been removed, please submit a scan of the front and back of the item to setregistry@collectors.com and the item will be removed for you. Registrants are urged to delete their sets or coins from the registry soon after sets or coins are sold in order to release the certification numbers for other registrants who may have purchased the items and wish to register them. If after 3 business days from receiving a removal request you have not deleted a sold coin from your set(s) and inventory and your set is 90% complete or greater, your entire set will be retired. Contact Set Registry customer service to have your set reinstated to active."

    So email a photo or scan of the coin to the email address above and they will remove the coin so you can add it to your Registry.
     
  6. rlm's cents

    rlm's cents Numismatist

    You are correct. I missed that "everyman".
     
  7. baseball21

    baseball21 Well-Known Member

    Tim nailed it. There are other sets which will allow the MS coins in as well
     
  8. kanga

    kanga 65 Year Collector

    Yep, NGC is quite easy to use.
    EXCEPTION: Custom sets are a bit of a pain to deal with.
     
  9. Quintus Arrius

    Quintus Arrius New Member

    If in the infinite wisdom of PCGS' Set Registry a continuous series of coins, 1899-1914, must be split in two parts [i.e., 1899-1906; 1907-1914] I fail to see why anyone would feel deleting a single date without prior notice to the owner, would not be considered a breach of etiquette in lieu of a formal announcement.
    If PCGS had made its intent clear by simply contacting me, my former set would not languish in complete disarray and I would not have lost my No. 1 set rating and rank, held for four consecutive years in running on the French 20-francs gold rooster series.
     
  10. green18

    green18 Unknown member Sweet on Commemorative Coins

    Interesting. Contact Tim Allan........

    Necro thread!!!!!
     
  11. mrweaseluv

    mrweaseluv Supporter! Supporter

    I had registry sets at both pcgs and ngc but in the end the restrictions and other issues caused me to drop those and stick with my ngc registry sets (which allows pcgs coins as well as ngc and soon CAC as well) I'm not saying NGC is perfect but if there is an issue an e-mail will usually fix it in 48hrs :D
     
  12. johnmilton

    johnmilton Well-Known Member

    Years ago I spent a lot of time on the NGC registry and enjoyed. One thing to remember is don't get caught up on being #1 or some other high number. You will waste money because it.

    The PCGS registry is too restrictive because they will only accept PCGS coins. I messed with it a little. My Classic Head Quarter Eagles are there because they are PCGS graded. Otherwise I don't use the PCGS registry.
     
  13. calcol

    calcol Supporter! Supporter

    I enjoy both registries. PCGS restricting their registry to coins they’ve certified is not a big deal for me. When I collect a series, I make it all PCGS or all NGC. The PCGS series go in their registry; the NGC in their registry.

    The point assignment methods are different between the two registries. NGC uses an algorithm based on rarity of type, date and grade, and market value. The points for a particular coin can change over time. Presumably, this could cause a set to change in ranking.

    PCGS assigns a weight to each coin in a series and multiplies the weight times the grade of each coin in a set then sums these products to get a score. There can be bonuses for things like color in copper or top of pop. The weights were assigned long ago and appear to never change. Some are now ridiculous. For example, an 1881-CC Morgan has twice the weight of an 1890-CC or 1891-CC.

    Another difference is that to receive an annual best set award at PCGS, the participant must have at least 95% set completion. At NGC, percent completion doesn’t matter. If you have the best set, you’ll get an award.

    Cal
     
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