1921 Mercury Dime with die clash?

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  1. Seba79

    Seba79 Well-Known Member

    Hello! Any info about this? Die clash? scratches? I know the 1921 date its a bit rare, but i don't know much about the series..

    Many thanks for the help..

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  3. MKent

    MKent Well-Known Member

    Very nice piece. I'm looking for one about that same grade as it is one of the three I need to finish my circulated folder. That is s very nice obverse die clash as well. Mind if I ask where you found that one?


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  4. Cascade

    Cascade CAC Variety Nerd

    Oh man. Just imagine what that baby looked like fresh off the press. If it's that strong with this level of wear. Nice catch :)
     
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  5. Seba79

    Seba79 Well-Known Member

    Thanks! I found this in a local auction.
     
  6. Cascade

    Cascade CAC Variety Nerd

    Did you buy it in a lot of by itself? Whatd you pay and did you get any more coins from the auction or were there anymore?
     
  7. ldhair

    ldhair Clean Supporter

    Nice find.
     
  8. silentnviolent

    silentnviolent accumulator--selling--make an offer I can't refuse

    For discussion purposes, on a key date ( or semi key) coin, are clashes, clips, cuds, etc beneficial to value or detrimental? I realize, each of the latter being unique and even as far as clashes gradually wearing to obscurity or polished away, each would be evaluated on a case by case basis. As far as this piece is concerned, it does not (imo) detract from eye appeal; surfaces appear original, date is clear, rims look good.

    What is the consensus?
     
  9. physics-fan3.14

    physics-fan3.14 You got any more of them.... prooflikes?

    On a coin of this grade, I think the clash sets it apart from the rest (and is pretty cool). It doesn't really change the value. On higher grade coins, clashes, chips and cuds will not change the grade - they are mint made effects, and are not considered in the grade. However, they will tend to lower the value. You may find a collector here or there who thinks they are really cool and will pay for it, but most collectors won't. They are considered imperfections, and often considered to detract from the eye appeal. This is especially true on rare or key date coins.

    I speak in generalities because, of course, for everything I just said there are several notable exceptions.
     
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  10. MKent

    MKent Well-Known Member

    I'm not sure @silentnviolent as I think clashes and clips and such are collecting preference for some but a turn off to others. A coin like this could go a lot ways ei. if your needing one for an album or folder in this grade you might pass because of the clash because the other coins in the set don't have clashes. If you're an error collector you might be willing to pay more for a key date error than some would while others just want the error and will wait for a more common date example to come along. This wasn't any help at all was it? LOL
    By the way I saw a 3C Nickel on here a few years ago with a remarkable die clash on the reverse and I have been hooked on die clashes ever since. I have several dimes and cents that I have found and probably half a dozen 3Cent nickels with clashes and I have never paid more to get the clash than the same coin would have cost without the clash. It's like vams in the Morgans I guess sometimes you pay extra sometimes you cherry pick them. Still no help right.
     
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  11. SuperDave

    SuperDave Free the Cartwheels!

    I don't believe you'll find a consensus. :)

    I find such "extra" features to add interest to me. Not that I'd necessarily pay a premium, but I'd probably purchase a key coin with a prominent clash over one with pristine strike. Others feel exactly the opposite, and consider such coins less appealing.
     
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  12. Stoneman2

    Stoneman2 New Member

    I somewhat agree with SDave , I like Variety and error coin combo's, I specifically search for them and have a few. The OP's coin I would snag in a heartbeat ... But ... If it is one of the big varieties or an expensive key then I would want it uncomplicated . Here is a link to an Ebay auction . Judge for youself if an "uncomplicated " coin would have brought more.
    http://www.ebay.com/itm/1955-Doubled-Die-AND-Planchet-Clip-PCGS-AU53-/291798258466?rmvSB=true&_trkparms=aid=555012&algo=PW.MBE&ao=2&asc=20131231084308&meid=98e50953cac74f5e9488af3d1479cc22&pid=100010&rk=5&rkt=24&sd=331877436368&_trksid=p2047675.l2557&nma=true&si=t5bQo5mApU5MKWNU31oYWHyLi4U%3D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc
     
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  13. MKent

    MKent Well-Known Member

    The corrosion spot might have hurt it as well but I would have found the planchet error to have made that coin even that much more rare a find.
     
  14. SuperDave

    SuperDave Free the Cartwheels!

    Yeah, like that. :D
     
  15. physics-fan3.14

    physics-fan3.14 You got any more of them.... prooflikes?

    That coin sold about $200 - $300 less than recent AU-53s on Heritage. This is in line with what I would expect. The corrosion spot hurts it as well, of course.

    With a coin like this, the error collectors don't usually want to spend a lot for a rare variety (or a key date). And the Lincoln collectors, or variety collectors, don't want a prize key date with large, noticeable flaws. Thus, the price is going to suffer (in this case, quite a lot).
     
  16. Seba79

    Seba79 Well-Known Member

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