If you don't Silver Stack you will be left behind

Discussion in 'Bullion Investing' started by SunriseCoins, Mar 22, 2015.

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Silver or Fiat which one wins in the long run?

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  1. Silver

    75.5%
  2. Fiat

    24.5%
  1. SunriseCoins

    SunriseCoins Active Member

    Cascade,I agree with all you wrote. Smart move.
     
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  3. SunriseCoins

    SunriseCoins Active Member

    I am telling you all right now if you all pony back Wall Street and buy-in and hold as Wall Street spin's the line up you you better be selling Falsehood Paper Silver.

    It is plain as day now Wall Street is working over the Paper Falsehood Silver. Nobody in the whole world is trading up as they are. They do this right after a fairly low low was hit right around $14.30 for Silver and the Dow was dropping at the time to the high 15 thousands.

    All I can say is, Wall Street where is all the Physical Silver to show for the Millions and Millions of Paper Falsehood Silver Oz's that are getting traded the last week or so, I am so mad my head is spinning.

    This is why people are confused about buying Silver and buy in to much at a time, this is the longest taking drop in the history of PM's from a high so long in fact it now should be a crime what is going on with Wall Street and Paper Silver.

    Give this up trend a few more weeks at most and these Crooks will be out of their cheap Paper Silver again for the time being till we hit in the 13's low 14's and this cycle of Falsehood Trading will happen all over again.
     
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  4. InfleXion

    InfleXion Wealth Preserver

    I am not talking about past downtrends. I am talking about the next potential downtrend. The current price of physical metal is not going to go down with spot price with exception to newly minted generic bullion insomuch as private mints can bring it to market. Eagles, maples, libertads, etc. have not gotten any cheaper the last few months regardless of what spot price does, and these mints have had to ration their output to ensure future supply can come to market. People who are holding metal aren't going to sell when the price goes down, so you are reliant on whatever new metal production comes to market for any potential discount.

    Say what you want about eagles. The fact is they are legal tender in the US. That's a pretty valid reason to have them in my opinion if you are a US resident. For Canadians the same case can be made for maples. I can find them for $18 but I should have clarified I was referring to online retailers for not listing at less than $20. That's irrelevant anyway. My point is that dealers are not lowering their prices, whether the particular dealer charges $18 or $20 or $22. The physical market price has not dropped with the spot price for many months.

    Feel free to wait for the next downturn which I agree is likely coming, but don't expect to get a better deal on bullion. You might be able to get a better deal, but it's not a guarantee. I also don't think another downtrend is a foregone conclusion since the Fed could very well choose QE4 and hyperinflation. Or if we are right about a downtrend, that could lead to default and a situation where fiat currency doesn't buy anything. You could be doing a great disservice to someone who has yet to establish their core positoin by telling them to wait. Of course, it could be an equal disservice by telling someone to buy. It's a lot of responsibility to claim you know best, and in the absence of having a crystal ball any rational person would temper their expectations.

    It's strange how much faith you put in the paper price for someone who constantly harps on its falsehood. Have you taken the time to look at the registered inventories on the exchanges? It only works as long as there is metal in the vaults.
     
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  5. SunriseCoins

    SunriseCoins Active Member

    I am not talking about past downtrends.-Ok
    I am talking about the next potential downtrend.-Wow
    The current price of physical metal is not going to go down with spot price with exception to newly minted generic bullion insomuch as private mints can bring it to market. ------------Your 100% Wrong.------------

    Ok 3 Lines and I am done with this guy.

    He makes no sense at all and then start going on about hyperinflation. Thats a bad word that many have no reason or real info to even bring up.

    Just wait it out you all. You all will get more for your buck down the road. I am buying just a half pound this month of Silver unless we see the Low $14 dollar trade price.

    Its guys like this I wish would find the mirror and go argue away.

    Remember all do not let the Falsehoods of Dealers get the better of you in the wallet.
     
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  6. Endeavor

    Endeavor Well-Known Member

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  7. SunriseCoins

    SunriseCoins Active Member

    All the fishieee'zz are coming home the Dow the Dow its getting its pump up.

    Few more weeks or less now and PM's will be going back down. Oil needs to fall some more as well its in the Green to much as of late. Rice,etc all need to get back on track and fall.

    Good news is the Pumped up Dow is up again and all the fish love it so. Frankly this down trend is so long and riddled with so many Falsehoods my head is spinning when I see a about a $2 dollar gain in Silver.

    Gold is just a plain scam and has been for 3 years I pay it no mind anyhow.
     
  8. Onofrio Bacigalupo

    Onofrio Bacigalupo Well-Known Member

    Benito Mussolini:

    "Meglio vivere un giorno da leaone invece di cento anni da pecora."
    It is better to live one day as a lion then one hundred years as a lamb.
     
  9. Kip Caven

    Kip Caven Member

    PAPER MONEY-which at some point will be useless (or close)
     
  10. -jeffB

    -jeffB Greshams LEO Supporter

    And just think how much better off the world was while Benito Mussolini was alive and subscribing to that philosophy. :rolleyes:
     
  11. longnine009

    longnine009 Darwin has to eat too. Supporter

    What lion? He was Hitler's lap poodle.
     
    Last edited: Oct 18, 2015
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  12. InfleXion

    InfleXion Wealth Preserver

    Translation: I'm ignorant about what you posted because it was too much to bother to read. I saw a buzzword and stereotyped the post. I am right even without providing any sort of rebuttle.
     
  13. chuck123

    chuck123 Active Member

    Dang I wish I was as smart and rich as some of the people spouting off on this topic instead of so damn good looking. lol
     
  14. SunriseCoins

    SunriseCoins Active Member

    I like what I am seeing in the last 48 hours with Silver in a down trend.

    Again to be pointed out Silver the loser, I am again getting ready.

    I see $14.50 Trade Price again I buy again. How much half pound to 2 pounds.

    As of now I will only buy a half pound at Trade Price as of this min, sometime this month.

    Bottom line buying in a flat line time for Silver is best and in a downtrend one must be very careful of over spending as people just last week lost money over the last 48 hours for no real reason.

    My advice relax and wait for $14.50 trade price or lower to buy major otherwise buy a half pound or pound of silver.
     
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  15. Onofrio Bacigalupo

    Onofrio Bacigalupo Well-Known Member

    Do you collect any coins or are you just buying silver bullion?
     
  16. SunriseCoins

    SunriseCoins Active Member

    @Onofrio Bacigalupo, I have wrote in this thread what I do and think about Coins.

    It maybe deep back few pages worth of comments, not sure but its faster for me to just write it again. Over all yes in the last 19 years I buy Bullion.

    I do at time buy Gold/Platinum Coins for dates and low mintage's at times again its just one more item I do not really need but at times I do buy them. If others want them sure pick them up, spot most times thru out a year should not and does not effect the markup to a point that it will matter down the line for resale.

    I have collected other items that are not related to PM's again as I get older these items are just becoming one more item my Fiat is in holding in, this is not a problem. I have just over the last 5 years or so the interest is not there for me but hey do as you all want, this is just my system and not a rule only my advice and insight.

    I am a believer that all should own PM's to some degree. I myself own much more then I think the average person should or could own. People do not understand building wealth is important and must be done for your self by your self.

    Saving Fiat against your PM's by = value is most important to have strong hands with your PM's.

    The Falsehoods of the markets and fiat itself is the main reason others should own Physical PM's. Do they the masses own PM's no. Does this effect PM's negative as far as Supply and Demand Yes.

    Never the less PM's are important to own and a half pound or pound is important to own each month of any year except the high peak years unless sold short and I do not encourage this type of buying as it is very tricky to sell short in peak years.

    Dealers now are not your friends and think how unhelpful they would be if 30%,40%,50% new buyers came into the ownership of Physical PM's. We have it good now those of us (very small %) buying Bullion PM's in bulk now, just be aware of the Markets and the Falsehood's of the Paper Market when buying Bullion PM's in bulk.

    What the Wall Street Trader does is not important to us so just do not get lost in their pattern of buying and selling. Sit back for the fall out for each new low we get to the flat line and work your average do not let it work you.
     
  17. Onofrio Bacigalupo

    Onofrio Bacigalupo Well-Known Member

    Do you think that you can spend these "PMs" if the dollar goes bust and there are mobs in the streets?
     
  18. SunriseCoins

    SunriseCoins Active Member

    I did not see mobs on the street after or as 2008-09 happen. In fact 2010-11 is how long it took after the fact for PM's to go up. I am glad to this day I had a bunch of PM's. It paid to invested in Physical PM's for the last 19 years
    then in 2010-11 and it will again Mob Free. Mobs break down after the law steps in thanks Cops and Military for getting the Sheep back in line.

    Onofrio stop asking me point less ? go get a life.
     
  19. desertgem

    desertgem Senior Errer Collecktor Supporter

    "Mobs in the street?" Over monetary problems. I don't think so. Sheep come in many varieties: Those who follow self appointed "know-alls", Those who only believe in the PM side ( no paper is good). Those who believe PMs will never provide any true value( stocks rule). Those who believe in a balanced portfolio, with a basis in all types of investments, including real estate, although arguably not a sheep as few follow this thought. If you have no personal land and water supply to grow food, you are a sheep, and your pm will go to them eventually.
     
  20. Onofrio Bacigalupo

    Onofrio Bacigalupo Well-Known Member

    Mobs in the street over far less.
     
  21. Onofrio Bacigalupo

    Onofrio Bacigalupo Well-Known Member

    You should buy yourself an AK 47 and stock up on ammo and non-perishable foodstuffs. Oh, yea, and hang on to your PMs for decoration.
     
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