Puck "Cents"

If you had to pick a sleeper or the one puck to own for 2013 (White Mountains, Perry' s Victory, Ft. McHenry, Great Basin or Mount Rushmore), which one would it be and why?

 

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Bueller?... Bueller?... Bueller?

 

I'll go with Perry's Victory because of the lowest mintage. Also, Perry had a pretty good fork splitter, which made the ball move all over the place.

 

Wasn't he a spit-baller? I think that's why he's not in the HOF. I'd have to say Great Basin or McHenry.

 

I'd go with Great Basin because I just prefer the design. White Mountain would be my second choice for the same reason.

 

Here is a mid summer update on the pucks. The sales of the Shenadoah and Arches pucks have slowed and it may take some time to sell out 30k of them. The other pucks are retaining about the same value. I must say that I'm seeing little sale activity on some of them on ebay, which makes it difficult to asign value. The few sales of Hawaii pucks suggests that they are increasing further in value. The last one sold in late July at $859 with an early July sale of $775. Thus, I've increased its market value to $800. It is now worth twice the second most valuable puck, the Acadia at $400. Chaco Culture and Chickasaw may be sleepers as they seem to have low value for their mintages.

Updated on 03 August 2014

2010 (Average Mint Sales Price of $280)
Hot Springs (NP1) $260 27,000
Yellowstone (NP2) $250 27,000
Yosemite (NP3) $230 27,000
Grand Canyon (NP4) $225 26,019
Mount Hood (NP5) $220 26,928
2011 (Average Mint Sales Price of $215)
Gettysburg (NP6) $210 24,625
Glacier (NP7) $207 20,856
Olympic (NP8) $219 18,398
Vicksburg (NP9) $213 18,594
Chickasaw (NP10) $236 16,827
2012 (Average Mint Sales Price of $215)
El Yungue (NQ0) $300 17,314
Chaco Culture (NQ1) $225 17,146
Acadia (NQ2) $400 14,978
Hawaii (NQ3) $800 14,863
Denali (NQ4) $325 15,225
2013 (Average Mint Sales Price of $155)
White Mountains (NQ5) $190 20, 530
Perry's Victory (NQ6) $200 17,707
Great Basin (NQ7) $180 17,792
Fort McHenry (NQ8) $186 19,802
Mount Rushmore (NQ9) $186, 23,547
2014 (Average Mint Sales Price of $140 with Subscription)
Great Smokey Mountains (NR1) $155 24,705
Shenadoah National Park (NR2) $155 24,775*
Arches (NR3) $155 24668*

* US mint still selling to a maximum mintage of 30,000.

 

I don't get it, but I like it. Why would anyone buy 5 super high mintage ASE's for $133, when they could buy one of these super low mintage Pucks for only $7 more? Saving $7 is foolish when you compare how prices perform in a volatile pm market.

 

This and with all the hoopla over the HOF and Kennedy coins this year, the puck are really flying under the radar. I like the long term potential.

 

Ahhhhhh, sanity prevails in the Puck thread - nice, peaceful and sensible over here. That gold Kennedy seems to have brought out all the scams, scoundrels and suckers.

 

Anyone else notice that the number of P collector pucks for sale on eBay (especially in OGP) have significantly decreased lately? You see mostly 2014 pucks now but even these are not that plentiful. Now, all we need is increased demand. TC

 

Makes since with these miniscule mintages for all issues - probably won't take long for them to "dry up". Once a collector who appreciates their beauty and rarity acquires them, they may be off the market permanently or until a much higher prices is offered. Again, with these miniscule mintages, it won't take much increase in demand for them to appreciate.

 

I only started buying them this year. I wish I had picked them up as they were released now...

 

Coin World reports the lowest mintage P-Puck is Chickasaw at 14,807, but I saw lower numbers for Chaco at 13,902 and Denali at 13,831. They also reported the highest mintage was Mount Hood at 26,637, but I saw that 3 other 2010’s had higher mintages. Anyway, the initial sales report showing Hawaii as the lowest does not appear to be correct given the final audited numbers for other issues.

http://www.coinworld.com/insights/mint-records-great-smoky-mountains-5-ounce-silver-sellout.2.html (see page 2)

 

Although coinworld may be correct, it is much different than the last reported numbers from coinupdate.com as well as the below information (dated) from mintnewsblog. I would love to see an official audit report from the mint but it will probably be awhile before that happens. Meanwhile, I'll stick with the above numbers until we have an agreement on the official ones. As a note, I update the sales numbers using coinupdate.com and double check with the US mint production numbers on an occasional basis. Coinupdate.com will typically drop the items from the list when they have sold out and the sales figures from the mint stabilize to 0. After a sellout, you will typically see some slight changes for a couple of months in the final mintage number until it finally settles to the end number.

http://mintnewsblog.com/2013/12/2010-2013-america-the-beautiful-5-oz-silver-coin-mintages/

 

Last year Coin World published these numbers for the first three years 5oz P AtB's, saying they were the audited numbers. It will be interesting to see some "final" numbers from the mint. However they turn out, I like them all, as they are all low mintage.

Hot Springs (AR) 5oz. 2010-P Uncirculated
26,788
Yellowstone (WY) 5oz. 2010-P Uncirculated
26,711
Yosemite (CA) 5oz. 2010-P Uncirculated
26,716
Grand Canyon (AZ) 5oz. 2010-P Uncirculated
25,967
Mount Hood (OR) 5oz. 2010-P Uncirculated
26,637
Gettysburg (PA) 5oz. 2011-P Uncirculated
22,390
Glacier (MT) 5oz. 2011-P Uncirculated
18,799
Olympic (WA) 5oz. 2011-P Uncirculated
16,434
Vicksburg (MS) 5oz. 2011-P Uncirculated
16,522
Chickasaw (OK) 5oz. 2011-P Uncirculated
14,807
El Yunque (PR) 5oz. 2012-P Uncirculated
16,326
Chaco Culture (NM) 5oz. 2012-P Uncirculated
13,902
Acadia (ME) 5oz. 2012-P Uncirculated
14,716
Hawaii Volcanoes (HI) 5oz. 2012-P Uncirculated
14,863
Denai (AK) 5oz. 2012-P Uncirculated
13,831

 

Does anyone know the issue date for the next in the series?

 

Great Sand Dunes will release on 15-Sep-2014. If you have a subscription, you will get a 10% discount.

 

The 2010 numbers seem reasonable but I would question the numbers from 2011 and 2012. It is hard to believe that coinupdate.com and the US mint could be so far off with the Chickasaw, Chaco Culture, and Denali numbers. coinupdate reported on the sales every week for quite awhile and also adjusted the sales after the sell out. I'm not sure how the sales could have gone down by 10% from the last reporting. I must say that I also hope that it proves true. I have all of them and it has to help the value.

 

Yeah, who knows, guess we'll have to wait and see. Heck, why should the mint care if we have accurate numbers years after sales end? Oh yeah, it would be good customer service, that costs little to provide.

Not sure why some declined so much, except for Chaco. I ordered lated and returned 3 before I got one to keep. I think I remember many said they returned some.

 

As an interesting aside, I asked a question on the mint website in an attempt to find the final sales figures for the first eight presidential cover series. In lieu of the first eight, they only gave me the first and eighth president. Although they didn't answer the whole question, it was better than I was expecting so I asked more specifically for the second, third, fourth, fifth, sixth, and seventh. Apparently, you can ask only one question because I never got a response to my second question. I've met my quota!