2011 ASE set discoloration

Discussion in 'Bullion Investing' started by Yankee42, Mar 8, 2014.

  1. Yankee42

    Yankee42 Well-Known Member

    Not sure if this is the right forum but it is a bullion coin. Has anyone else noticed any tarnishing on their ASEs? My 2011 RP is tarnished on the obverse only between 2 o'clock and 7 o'clock. Upon further inspection it appears the plastic holder does not close correctly.

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  3. Looks like some air got in through the holder. Where do you store it? The environment can make a big difference. I actually like the toning in the pic. Maybe now you should just keep it where it is and see what happens over time. TC
     
  4. Silveraholic

    Silveraholic Member

    Over time all .999 silver bullion is going to tone. Even in the mint capsules, even in a tpg slab, and even in an "air-tite" capsule. If you store it in a tight container with a desiccant you can delay the inevitable for a few years but not forever.
     
  5. Yankee42

    Yankee42 Well-Known Member

    Thanks for the replies. I do store them with desiccants in a safe deposit box. It was just odd because it was the only one out of the set of 5.
     
  6. Silveraholic

    Silveraholic Member

    I wouldn't get too worried about it though. Depending on how it tones some collectors will pay a premium for attractively toned coins.
     
  7. USS656

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  8. Yankee42

    Yankee42 Well-Known Member

    Thanks for the heads up I will take the paper out.
     
  9. onecenter

    onecenter Member

    I checked my five sets and there is only an ever so slight golden tone to the rims of the 2011-S uncirculated coins. All the others exhibit no toning.
     
  10. Phil Ham

    Phil Ham Hamster

    I would check mine but they are still in the sealed box. I have issues.
     
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  11. westcoasting

    westcoasting Active Member

    Apparently, trust isn't one of them.. :D
     
  12. Evom777

    Evom777 Make mine .999

    Don`t feel bad Yankee42.....My 2013 West Point 2 coin set had slight milk spots on the reverse proof. (I was none too pleased) The capsule was intact, and the set was stored in a "cool dry place."

    Last year I was reading in the 1st edition of the Silver Eagle Book that the mint is concerned with the issue of milk spotting, but has yet to figure out why some coins spot sooner than others. Idk if anybody will ever be able to stop pure silver from spotting, but at least they`re trying.
     
  13. Yankee42

    Yankee42 Well-Known Member

    Since the capsule is warped and slightly opened would it be worth trying to get a replacement capsule?
     
  14. statequarterguy

    statequarterguy Love Pucks

    I take my coins out of the mint packaging and store them in the capsules in ziplock bags in a SDB. It’s been rare to see a toning problem in over 30 years. All of the mint packaging could cause toning.

    As for finding a replacement capsule, you’ll have to find one on the secondary market. I tried to get one for a 5oz puck from the mint. The only way they’d replace the capsule was to replace the coin as well.
     
  15. Yankee42

    Yankee42 Well-Known Member

    Thanks for saving me the phone call.
     
  16. sodude

    sodude Well-Known Member

    If the Mint is concerned and trying to fix the problem, they've apparently gone in the wrong direction. 2013 was a bad year for spotting. The Burnished and the Enhanced Uncirculated coins have a terrible tendency to spot. And it seems a high percentage of the 2012 Burnished Eagles have spots.
     
  17. medoraman

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    I agree. One of the great toning agents to coins is paper from mint paperwork. Paper should never be stored near coins if you wish to avoid this possibility. However, if someone WANTS toning, paper is a great asset, (especially certain paper ;))
     
  18. mill rat41

    mill rat41 Member

    I have 2012 LE silver proof sets, 2012 SF sets and 2013 sets in the sealed mint boxes - I wonder if they aren't a mess by now. With these it seems "white is right".
     
  19. statequarterguy

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    Yep, back when I started collecting in the 1960’s/1970’s, most expected 20th century silver coins to be white, even some 19th century coins were often dipped to make them white. Even though today toning is appreciated, the market expects newer coins, especially those in mint “air-tites” to be white, I guess because the technology/knowledge exists to keep them original. Unfortunately, in the mint’s quest for more & more profit, their mishandling of the coins often dooms them before they’re encapsulated.
     
  20. Yankee42

    Yankee42 Well-Known Member

    In my case, the capsule is slightly warped where the two sides meet. Didn't notice it at the time. With only 100,000 sets it's not like I could have returned it anyway.
     
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  21. statequarterguy

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    Very true. I'd get it in a good capsule, store it properly, and forget about it. Down the road, most will probably exhibit some minor toning, which should not affect their value. Heck, look at all those certified 69's & 70's that the TPG'ers slabbed with their bare hands, those may start to show some blotchy uneven toning.

    Edit: Took another look at your coin. Assuming most will tone down the road, yours has some very attractive toning. Get it in a good capsule and keep it that way as much as possible. I would not try to dip it or clean it.
     
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