Should I buy it?

If you like plastic that is fine, just don't pay more than you should just for the plastic opinion.

 

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I haven't paid anything at all for their
plastic opinions since 1999.

I take that back. I used ICG to slab
the JFK/RFK mattes in 2000. Other
than that I've been a TPG free exonumia
collector.

 

I have two cute little pieces of numismatic exonumia sitting on my desk right now - teapots made from cents in the 1930s.

 

I remember you mentioning them
in one of Detecto's other threads.

Have you looked at Charmy's ANA
exhibit? She has a ton of copper
exonumia, including clock gears
cut from copper cents.

 

Don't buy it. It looks too imperial.

 

At one time Britannia really did
rule the waves. Her Navy had to
always be twice the strength as
France and Spain added together.

 

She is my nemesis! And gees, do you look at her website with cents - it must be her "woman's intuition" or something but she does have an eye for coins. I am waiting for the right '09-S IHC from her.

 

Yeah, but they didn't always factor those sneaky Dutchmen - in the 1660s one of their ships slithered all the way up the Thames and fired on London.

 

Or that sneaky John Paul Jones who
made a seaborne raid on Whitehaven
during the Revolutionary War.

 

Not to mention a few raids into Scotland. You know, it must have really sucked for the British then - getting spanked by their colonial minions.

 

Probably why they sent mercs to
get jabbed in NJ by George.

 

Washington, with Nathanael Greene,
used classic Sun Tzu to defeat England:
They made victory too expensive for them;
a lesson we lost sight of in Vietnam and
Korea.

 

Yup - unless you are prepared to go all out - don't bother. Limited wars do nothing but make the enemy stronger. The end of the war in Viet-Nam was only precipitated by Nixon finally unleashing B-52 bombing raids on Hanoi in 1972 with "Operation Linebacker". Until then, everything was seriously limited. Only military targets could be bombed etc.

They didn't use the "only military targets" philosophy to beat the living daylights out of the Nazis and the Japanese during WWII. Fire-bombed cities made a big impression.

 

When you get the coin, take it out of that slab and drop it in a 10% bleach solution for 10 min. Then go over the surface with a brillo pad for a nice matte finish. That's what I did with my 2013 and I'm much happier now.

 

Indeed, lessons learned from the most
hated man in the Old South-William T. Sherman.

 

That is bogus - he wasn't hated in the South until long after the war, in fact near to the time he died in 1891. He started getting bad PR in the South during the 1880s. In fact CSA General Joseph Johnston was a pallbearer at Sherman's funeral in 1891 - they were friends after the war. Johnston caught cold while there and died shortly afterward.

Genl. Sherman was the one who first uttered "War is hell" - he hated war.

 

I wasn't referring to the south but the old
south or mid atlantic region where
I was stationed and surroundrd by
native southerners. They hated his
guts.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Old_South

Sherman never gave Johnston an
advantage to attack. And Johnston
refused to sacrifice his men. I think
the respect was quite mutual
and understandable for those reasons.

 

Like so many things, time has a way of hazing the facts. W. Virginia seceded from Virginia to stay in the union and became a state in 1863 - firmly in the Union camp. But go to W. Virginia today and one could get the impression that they were part of the Confederacy all along.

It is a phenomenon I have heard referred to as a "recreated memory".

Many of the commanders on both sides respected their adversaries - with good reason - they had known each other from the antebellum era while in the service. That was all largely ignored after the lifetimes of those men.

 

I agree. What too many forget is almost all commanders during the Civil War were old Mexican War buddies. It was Grant, who saw through the old facade and saw the real path to victory, that upset this status quou. Many commanders on both sides did not think much of Grant's tactics from what i read, but they were effective in shortening the war. Like most new types of warfare, it was hated at the time.

"War is hell" is about the most appropriate phrase ever uttered. Anyone glorifying war has never been imho.

 

Agreed. I think all the union generals
knew it wasn't a milk run. Grant was
the only one willing to get his hands dirty.
And that freaking McClellan I'm surprised
he didn't have a goofy hat, sunglasses
and corn cobb pipe in his mouth.

I think Grant just did the math then grabbed
everyone by the ear: "vacation's over."

We might be setting a record-going
from Britiannia to General Grant.