A Bill to Register Buyers of Gold and Silver Coins

Discussion in 'Bullion Investing' started by Danr, Jan 9, 2013.

  1. Danr

    Danr Numismatist

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  3. hontonai

    hontonai Registered Contrarian

    Apparently it's real, and has already passed the Illinois Senate.
     
  4. Duke Kavanaugh

    Duke Kavanaugh The Big Coin Hunter

  5. Cazkaboom

    Cazkaboom One for all, all for me.

    That bill is Baloney!
    It will cost the dealers money to sell bullion as cit costs them a percentage to swipe a card.
    Dealers here in WA only accept cash on bullion because of that. I bet this bill makes the Illinois bullion buyers and sellers sad.
     
  6. Duke Kavanaugh

    Duke Kavanaugh The Big Coin Hunter

    And thusly the customers that will get less for their metals because of it.
     
  7. rickmp

    rickmp Frequently flatulent.

    I wonder if this includes silver and gold coins?
     
  8. scottishmoney

    scottishmoney Buh bye

    Gold and silver are just as dangerous as a gun to a government out of spending control.
     
  9. John Anthony

    John Anthony Ultracrepidarian

    Meh. The tighter big brother clenches his fist, the quicker things slip through his fingers.
     
  10. hontonai

    hontonai Registered Contrarian

    You betcha!

    Coins, wedding rings, other jewelry, and even photographic paper, meet the definition set forth in the bill: "Precious metal" means any item containing, in whole or in part, gold or silver or any alloy of gold or silver."

    If the bill becomes law, and I were a jeweler in Illinois, I think I would seriously consider getting a pawnbroker's license, since they will be exempted.

    All in all, just one more example of the sloppy disregard of unintended consequences that typifies legislators!
     
  11. doug444

    doug444 STAMPS and POSTCARDS too!

    I thought pawnbrokers almost everywhere have a really obnoxious and time-consuming daily report to submit to the police. Is that true?
     
  12. Blaubart

    Blaubart Melt Value = 4.50

    Unbelievable... :(
     
  13. medoraman

    medoraman Supporter! Supporter

    Pawn Brokers would be exempted? I read it initially thinking it was WRITTEN for pawn brokers. I have seen similar things apply to them to try to stop fenced goods.

    A law like this doesn't make sense to me.
     
  14. coinup

    coinup Junior Member

    If I were a jeweler in Ill and this became law I'd seriously consider moving my business to another state!
     
  15. Tinpot

    Tinpot Well-Known Member

    that's because you're not a tyrant and don't think like them. It's all about the system controlling everything which is their goal.
     
  16. scottishmoney

    scottishmoney Buh bye

    Where I live they are thoroughly regulated. In fact a local pawnbroker just got a slap from the state for allegedly buying some fenced goods.
     
  17. Troodon

    Troodon Coin Collector

    As far as I can tell it hasn't even come to a vote in the Illinois house yet, based on following that link you posted. (In Illinois apparently legislation has to pass the senate first, then the house, then be signed by the governor.)

    As near as I can figure the stated purpose of this is to put the burden on purchasers of precious metals to prove they're not purchasing stolen goods. Will leave it to others to decide whether there's something more nefarious in mind (I know some get suspicious when government requires people to do anything) but can't say much without getting into political discussion. I will say at the very least it seems inefficient and unnecessary.
     
  18. medoraman

    medoraman Supporter! Supporter

    I think some on CT believe I am. :)
     
  19. hontonai

    hontonai Registered Contrarian

    In every state of the Union (except Nebraska with its unicameral legislature) bills must be passed by both houses of the legislature, before going to the governor for signature. As in the U.S. Congress, most bills can be initiated in either house.
     
  20. medoraman

    medoraman Supporter! Supporter

    Except budgetary bills. ;)
     
  21. InfleXion

    InfleXion Wealth Preserver

    I would even go as far as to say gold and silver are far more dangerous, because they represent a viable alternative to regular currency which is their greatest weapon against the citizenry. PM's are also the canary in the coal mine for a failing currency. The hidden tax of inflation robbing buying power from people who don't know any better helps ensure that people are more likely to go into debt. Not to mention that it is a debt based currency which can only be created by pushing the burden of borrowing onto the tax payer which is a double whammy on the workers.
     
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