Dutch Seige Coinage

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  1. areich

    areich America*s Darling

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  3. Derick

    Derick Well-Known Member

    Did you buy it yet?
     
  4. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Seems like a nice piece and a fair price Amanda. I don't know for sure how scarce those pieces are, but I know who to ask to find out if you'd like me to do so.
     
  5. areich

    areich America*s Darling

    I'd appreciate that,

    thank you.
     
  6. moneyer12

    moneyer12 i just love UK coins.......

    how about this england siege coin from the civil war................



    Carlisle_siege_coin_802156.jpg

    Carlisle shilling......
     
  7. areich

    areich America*s Darling

    That is very nice. My specialty is Dutch Art so I have a bias for Dutch coinage, and the 1672 war was the most important watershed of that period.

    Amanda
     
  8. areich

    areich America*s Darling

  9. Ripley

    Ripley Senior Member

    I think Scottishmoney has one of those.
     
  10. mrbrklyn

    mrbrklyn New Member

  11. Ripley

    Ripley Senior Member

    :rollling: Extraordinary gold coin Brooklyn, Too bad about Jetter and the Yanks tonight.
     
  12. mrbrklyn

    mrbrklyn New Member

    I'm not from the Bronx
     
  13. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Will do ;)

    Knowing Tony, the coin is fairly priced. He's a good guy and you should keep him in your preferred seller's list. 1576 is not one of the better dates but it is rated as an R1, second most common.
     
  14. areich

    areich America*s Darling

    A common coin might be less expensive and satisfy my desires. But I'd really like an Amsterdam strike from 1672
     
  15. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    The Amsterdam siege was in 1578, this is the coin - http://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?album=3616&pos=0

    And yes, it appears is is a bit cheaper than your original post. here's a couple of realized sales for that coin - https://www.numisbids.com/n.php?p=lot&sid=283&lot=1827

    http://www.mcsearch.info/search.html?search=similar:76487&view_mode=1#0

    Are you specifically looking for a siege coin from Amsterdam, or would you really prefer a specific coin from Amsterdam dated 1672 ?
     
  16. chrisild

    chrisild Coin Collector

    Well, 1672 is known as the rampjaar, but it sure involved a siege too. ;)

    Christian
     
  17. Ripley

    Ripley Senior Member

    :devil: Be interesting to see what the stock of VOC did during the "rampjaar?"
     
  18. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Perhaps, but if there was a siege of Amsterdam in 1672 I can find no specific record of it. And I can find no record of any siege coins minted in Amsterdam in 1672 - which was my primary point.
     
  19. chrisild

    chrisild Coin Collector

    In a way this is a continuation of that topic, and "over there" I posted this link. That klippe, and the one that Amanda showed in the initial post of this topic, refer to the 1672 Groningen siege. I would not count the French offensive, and the reaction (Dutch Waterline), as a siege either, but we can of course be flexible. :)

    Christian
     
  20. areich

    areich America*s Darling

    That is interesting. I thought that the Amsterdam Munt was pressed into usage during the rampjaar. The seize of the country was enough to end the first statholderless period, assert the family of Orange to both the English and Dutch monarchy, and it might have been the olny country ever invaded and to have survived the combined might of the invasion forces of England, France and Germany. Most importantly from my interests, it abruptly ended the Golden Age of Dutch art, bankrupting most of the great artists of the time including Vermeer.

    Doug, can you post a quick list of Amsterdam minted coins of the period from 1672 and backward.

    Amanda
     
  21. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Good Lord Amanda, do you have any idea how many coins that is ? There are pages and pages of just the silver coins, let alone a the gold and copper. And that's just for a 100 years worth.

    Don't misunderstand, I'll spend hours (gladly) trying to help you out. But how about narrowing things down a bit. Give some parameters, guidelines, to go by, tell me specifically what it is that interests you the most and I'll see if I can't find it for you.
     
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