Fake 1893 P Morgan Dollar

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by Fall Guy, Apr 13, 2012.

  1. silverfool

    silverfool Active Member

    I'm posting late but that caught my eye. need to see the edge more but it looked like casting marks.
     
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  3. SteveCaruso

    SteveCaruso Counterfeit Collector

    Yep, that one looks like a recent Chinese fake, and a nice one as that, as far as fakes go. :)

    How does the reeding look?
     
  4. Fall Guy

    Fall Guy Active Member

    It looks good. I'll get some pics up later.
     
  5. tonedcoins

    tonedcoins New Member

  6. Fall Guy

    Fall Guy Active Member

    Here are a few more pics

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  7. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

    Date font is wrong. In my case it was the 1 and especially the 3 that caught my eye.
     
  8. mrbrklyn

    mrbrklyn New Member

    I can tell right away this is a fake. it is obvious, but don't ask me why. I have an imprint of what a Morgan looks like in my mind, and even all the 1923 morgans drive me crazy. For one thing, the reverse of a morgan will not wear like that.
     
  9. Coinsnake

    Coinsnake MorganMan

    The numbers in the date are not correct looking to me. That's the most obvious IMO.
     
  10. jloring

    jloring Senior Citizen

    And many others that have seen a lot of Morgans can also. The problem is the casual collector who stops by the flea market and thinks he's getting a bargain silver dollar for twenty bucks. Of course, there's a ton of fakes out there that are much better than this one, especially the die struck ones (with laser cut dies using the original dated coin as a master). See my older thread: http://www.cointalk.com/t191639/
     
  11. Larry Moran

    Larry Moran Numismatographer

    1. All of the numbers in the date are of different sizes.
    2. There is granularity on devices, in the hair on the obverse, on the eagle's wings on the reverse.
    3. The seam on the rim of the obverse appears to be from casting.
     
  12. mrbrklyn

    mrbrklyn New Member

    Larry - it is a fake Moran dollar :)
     
  13. Morgandude11

    Morgandude11 As long as it's Silver, I'm listening

    It is a terrible fake. There are so many in the 1892-1895 era, due to low mintages of many of the issues from all mints. I would not buy any from that time that were not in a PCGS or NGC holder, and from a reputable dealer.
     
  14. Kentucky

    Kentucky Supporter! Supporter

    If you want to try and get some of your money back, take it to the dealers, tell them you bought it at a flea market and offer to sell it to them. If they are professionals, they will determine if they want to buy it or not.
     
  15. Fall Guy

    Fall Guy Active Member

    I understand what you are saying, but I am not going to attempt to sell a coin that I know is fake. I couldn't do that in good conscience. I'll eat the $25 I spent, no big deal. Like I said before, I'd figure I would take a shot with a low probability of hitting and I missed.
     
  16. Morgandude11

    Morgandude11 As long as it's Silver, I'm listening

    Keep it as a keepsake and s souvenir, unless the person will give you money back.
     
  17. BUncirculated

    BUncirculated Well-Known Member

    I was bought a year ago at a flea market. No doubt the seller has moved on to their next state to set up shop.
     
  18. Fall Guy

    Fall Guy Active Member

    I paid $25 knowing it was probably fake. Like I said, I didn't have a scale with me at the time and my eye isn't that good to spot a fake all the time. I am not going to try and get my money back. I can live with the monetary loss and I actually learned a lot from it, so to me it was worth it.

    Exactly
     
  19. rzage

    rzage What Goes Around Comes Around .

    Still a relatively good fake , that would fool a lot of people .
     
  20. mrbrklyn

    mrbrklyn New Member

    teenagers with iphones
     
  21. Kentucky

    Kentucky Supporter! Supporter

    Yeah, you are right, I was just thinking to let the experts get some just deserts, but they would undoubtedly sell it to someone as genuine.
     
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