Trick Question on Weights and Measures

Discussion in 'Bullion Investing' started by Owle, Mar 2, 2012.

  1. Owle

    Owle Junior Member

    What is heavier, a pound of gold or a pound of feathers?

    Three possibilities: The same, gold weighs more, or feathers weigh more. :)

    This one stumped a few people at a Connecticut coin shop yesterday, the owner got it. Anyone have a concise, lucid answer on this? Thanks.
     
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  3. papermoney54

    papermoney54 Coin Collector

    they wiegh the same, but the feathers have a greater volume than the gold
     
  4. Parquet

    Parquet New Member

    The feathers weigh more because gold is measured in Troy weight.

    It appears that if you had said an ounce of each, then the gold would have weighed more.
    One troy ounce (oz t) is equal to 31.1034768 grams.
    One oz = 28.3495231 grams.
     
  5. papermoney54

    papermoney54 Coin Collector

    last time i checked there was a troy oz but nit a troy pound
     
  6. Parquet

    Parquet New Member

    It's probably obsolete these days. In that case the Gold weighs more.

    I tried some searches and can't find out when the TP was used... except for ebay scams!
     
  7. RiverGuy

    RiverGuy Tired and Retired

    Parquet, you have it almost right except there are only 12 troy ounces in a troy pound. Thus the feathers will weigh more.
     
  8. Billyray

    Billyray Junior Member

    From the wiki

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troy_weight
     
  9. Parquet

    Parquet New Member

    Yes, that was my first choice (reply #3).

    If Troy pounds are no longer used, won't the gold weigh more? (16 Troy oz versus 16 regular oz)
     
  10. -jeffB

    -jeffB Greshams LEO Supporter

    Nope. A troy pound is 12 troy ounces, and an avoirdupois pound is 16 avoirdupois ounces. 16 troy ounces isn't any sort of pound at all, except for wishful eBay bidders and the deceitful eBay sellers who prey on them.
     
  11. Parquet

    Parquet New Member

    But if we aren't using Troy Pounds anymore (reply #7) but we do still use Troy ounces, how much does a pound of gold weigh?
     
  12. yakpoo

    yakpoo Member

    Ahhh!...but which will hit the ground first? :thumb:
     
  13. cman

    cman Junior Member

    In an enviroment not affected by outside variables, they would hit at the same time
     
  14. yakpoo

    yakpoo Member

    Yes! ...if you assume the feathers are held together somehow (e.g. a bag...which would add additional weight). Of course, if you account for the tare weight...you would be correct. Otherwise, the feathers would fall at the rate of a single feather...which would be much slower.
     
  15. cman

    cman Junior Member

    Or a self contained vaccume chamber. The one feather would drop just as fast as 100 pounds of gold. 9.8 meters per second squared
     
  16. yakpoo

    yakpoo Member

    Really? Are you saying that a single feather has the same mass as a pound (troy or otherwise) of gold? That would be a pretty big feather!

    Newton's law of universal gravitation states that every point mass in the universe attracts every other point mass with a force that is directly proportional to the product of their masses and inversely proportional to the square of the distance between them.
     
  17. Kentucky

    Kentucky Supporter! Supporter

    Another reason to use the metric system, a gram doesn't come in a variety of flavors! And as far as Newton's law of universal gravitation, the mass of the earth would so far overshadow the mass of either one feather or a pound, there would be no measurable difference.
     
  18. -jeffB

    -jeffB Greshams LEO Supporter

    Yes, and Newton's Second Law of Motion states that the acceleration of an object is proportional to force and inversely proportional to its mass.

    An object one hundred times as massive is attracted to the Earth with one hundred times the force, and so it accelerates at exactly the same rate, 9.8 m/s/s.
     
  19. Parquet

    Parquet New Member

    Let's not let Newton hijack the thread! Come on OP et al, how much does a pound of Gold weigh?

    (Wouldn't it be funny if a bunch of coin and bullion collectors couldn't agree on the answer?!)
     
  20. Cazkaboom

    Cazkaboom One for all, all for me.

    I'd say the pound of feathers. One pound of feathers is 453.59 grams while a troy pound of gold is roughly 373.2 grams.

    Trick question with a trick answer.
     
  21. Parquet

    Parquet New Member

    What do we think of the posts and websites that declare that the use of the Troy Pound is obsolete as a unit of measure? Shouldn't we assume that the weight of the OP would be what it weighs in units that we use today? So if we are not using Troy Pounds anymore (but still using Troy ounces?), how much does a pound of gold weigh today?
     
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