2011 25th Anniversary Silver Eagle Set

I have been reading the posts and noticed that some are talking about joining NGC or PCGS just to get these coins graded. Just a sugestion: If you are interested in joining NGC, it might be smart to join the ANA instead, as it's practically the same ammount of money, you get an awesome magazine and you get submission priveleges to NGC.

Just a suggestion.

 

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My understanding was that ANA and other graders were not held in the same esteem as NGC and PGCS and that the graded coins themselves normally sold quite a bit lower than the other 2 grading companies. Don't know if true or not but looking at auctions and such seems to be the case.

 

I believe you are referring to ANACS, which does trade lower than NGC and PCGS. Though ANACS kept the name, it is no longer affiliated with the ANA. Instead, the ANA has a contract with NGC that allows members to submit directly to NGC, rather than pay for collector's society submission priveleges or to go through a dealer.

 

I looked at their site and they don't publish the fee to join. How much does it cost to join? Thanks

 

Dick Peterson? Really?

 

The American Numismatic Association does not grade coins, however, members of the association maintain submitting rights to NGC. I think you might be thinking of ANACS, Azpatriot.......

 

I hope I am not breaking any rules in doing this. I am not affiliated with the ANA except for being a member...

For basic, with an online copy of the numismatist and all the other benefits (including NGC), it is $14 for a YN or $28, for one year.

For a non-basic membership, with a print copy of the Numismatist delivered monthly, it is $26 for YN, $46 for regular or $41 for a senior for one year. Full info here:
http://www.money.org/Content/NavigationMenu/Membership/InstructionsandRates/default.htm

 

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I would go with PCGS and pay the extra $180 for the FIRST STRIKE labels on the two special coins. You'll make that $180 back plus a bunch.....and if it's a 70.......

 

I don't know how you all feel, but I really don't think they will change things until they are given a reason to change. I am pretty sure they have minted more bullion silver eagles this year than ever before and the second most silver eagles proofs in history. Also, the 25th Anniversary Set sold like crazy. These are hardly good enough reasons to make them think they should changed things. Okay, admittedly the commemoratives issued this year left a lot to be desired.

If we want to make them understand how badly they need to change some things, the only way that will happen is we simply stop buying. I think we all know that is about as likely as Ron Paul becoming president. So, we will just have to keep enduring their Flinstonian procedures until they decide it's time to throw the peons a crumb.

 

I think you are correct and I stand corrected

 

Thanks. It looks like a good deal. Pretty sure I'll join. I have a question. Do they archive the on line magazine?

 

YES, back to 2009 at least. There is also an ANA App for smart phones that you can read it on a mobile device. You can also download a PDF or print pages of the online edition. You will get the online edition ahead of others who wait for the hard copy too.

 

At some previous Whitman shows I've seen special deals by NGC and PCGS though I haven't noticed them lately. I've never graded a coin. Expensive coins I buy already graded by NGC or PCGS.
Some other coins I buy I don't want graded.

Seems to me contemporary Mint releases graded MS69 seem to sell for about the same as Mint issues in mint capsules. So, how many MS70s are going to be out there? Enough to justify grading a five coin set?

 

Getting away from the grading jargon! Anyone recieve a tracking # yet?

 

Not I. Mine still says "in process". I've no idea if they're going by time of order but mine was placed at 12:02.

 

If the Mint IT shop is structured the same as most other Federal Agencies all they have to do is reserve extra server time for special product roll outs.
The 25th anniversary roll out fiasco should not have happened. Whomever is their Chief IT person should be demoted to a desktop support tech.
It's not rocket science.

History repeats itself - remember the same mess happened with the 2009 AGE UHR sale.

 

LOL, i was excited for about 5 seconds when i saw a tracking number......but it was for an ATB set i got for my nephew that is in the same order. I did notice that the "cancel order" box has reappeared next the the silver eagle.

 

I know it makes no difference now, but would things have been any better if the household limit had been 1 instead of 5, so people wouldn't have felt such a great sense of urgency to place their order so soon after the sale began?

 

Because of the Mint's incompetency some would argue it would have been worse if orders were limited to one coin per address. The Mint bureaucracy (or contractor) just doesn't get it. Amazon, Google, Micro$oft, eBay and many other vendors deal with this issue all the time. Before I retired i worked for a Federal Agency that had installations in all fifty states and some other places. We probably had around >90,000 users logged on at the same time. Downtime was iinfinitesimal. For a large bureaucracy I was very proud of my workgroup's record and the agencies record. There's no reason why the Mint can't do a lot better

Sale day I logged on at noon and could finally log out, sale completed, at 2:11pm