I suppose it says something than on this Thanksgiving week, when we should all remember our blessings, I'm posting about a curse. Over 40 years ago, my brother "found" for me a 1917-D dime in EF condition. It soon became one of my favorites. I never asked how or why he had it, but it soon became a favorite of mine. Fast forward to 1987 or so. I had bought my first house, so I went picked up what remained of my childhood coin collection from my parents. The 1917-d was no where to be found. Fast forward another decade. The coin turned up, and I sent it to ANACS for grading. It came back in a PVC body bag, thanks to the 1960's era flip I had left it in. So in 2007, I decided to replace it, and bought another coin advertised as Choice BU. It was, alas, cleaned, so it went back to the seller. Last week, I bought an NGC-63 copy. Here's what I got: Larger photos at: http://picasaweb.google.com/mike.benveniste/SlushPile#5543947508161677634 http://picasaweb.google.com/mike.benveniste/SlushPile#5543947575563806978 This coin is perhaps the oddest of the bunch. The reverse is rotated by 15-20%, but what really concerns me is what appears to be a gouge and even a spot of wear on the obverse. So what do y'all think? Is the 1917-D dime just a cursed date for me, or am I expecting too much from an MS-63?
When I see graded and encapsulated coins by the top two grading services as in this example, I just shudder . How, tell me how on earth do things this this happen . I would bring this coin to the next large show and speak with the NGC rep. I don't think the coin deserves a MS grade, period.
In looking at the coin, I wonder if the 10 scrawled on the obverse above In God we Trust and below the L is on the slab or on the coin, Graffiti coins should not go for more than junk prices. Return to sender.
The seller has agreed to accept a return, so I'm only out shipping costs. That still doesn't explain how that coin got into an NGC-63 holder, though.
glad you got a return, seems fair from the seller. Maybe you should have kept it ( if you got it cheap enough ?), and let NGC buy it back ?? I'm not familiar with that particular issue but the spots turn me off.
I paid a reasonable market price for an MS-63 without FB. Sending it back to NGC is a gamble, which, thanks to the seller's honesty and integrity, I don't have to take. The one time I tried sending a coin back to PCGS, it disappeared. Shortly thereafter, a Newport Beach (IIRC) postal worker was arrested for stealing coins from the mail. It took a few months, but did finally collect on my USPS insurance.
Yes - but there was not a cost restriction and it is very nice in my opinion. I don't assume to know what others can afford. There is also an AU-53 coin on Heritage that does not look too bad.
It is very nice but out of my price range. My budget might stretch as high as an MS-64FB, but the only PCGS example I know of for sale is at an asking price of $1779. And after this episode, I'm not sure I trust NGC for this series.
I know the coin you speak of - and I inquired about it for my Dad's Birthyear collection. They came down a little - but I felt the coin was worth $1100 - 1200 - and not a cent more. Needless to say - the PCGS price guide has the 1917-D in 64FB at $1,100 - and a 64+ FB is at $1500. I also hear you regarding the NGC graded coins - although I recently bought the Eliasberg 1917-S Dime [ not a FB ] in NGC 66 - and I'm very happy to own it. I'm still looking for a nice 63-64 - 1917-D Dime myself - and its one coin that is on the top of my priority list. Good luck to both of us !!